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Overload wrote:1. If you pick up a book at Barnes & Noble that tells you it'll teach you how to make money on, say, craigslist starting with a $0 budget, you're not going to point to the price sticker on the back and claim the book is falsely advertised. The business model requires no initial startup costs. You're paying for a guide. Everyone understands this.

2. Welcome to my humble abode

3. When you put "profit" in quotes and outright call what I'm selling a silly waste of money having never read it for yourself, yeah, you look pretty angry. And maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me, but I'm pretty sure this thread was deleted for a minute or two. Maybe it wasn't you though.

1. Ignorance is bliss. People are sued / imprisoned ALL THE TIME for putting out information that leads others into debt or other ill fortune. You are selling something for $15 (despite repeating the phrase $0 startup). You can be held responsible for anything in that document. Google Kevin Trudeau for a textbook case. There are thousands.

2. I don't click on random links.

3. Sending you $15 for this document is absolutely silly. If you really wanted to help others as you suggest - you'd just post the how-to. That you are selling some "Dead Simple" process for $15 is shameful, but that's just my opinion, man. Also - if your thread was deleted...it would be deleted. BUT I AM ANGRY - OH SO ANGRY - I AM THE EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION!! DIE INSECT!

mjmjr25 wrote:

Overload wrote:1. If you pick up a book at Barnes & Noble that tells you it'll teach you how to make money on, say, craigslist starting with a $0 budget, you're not going to point to the price sticker on the back and claim the book is falsely advertised. The business model requires no initial startup costs. You're paying for a guide. Everyone understands this.

2. Welcome to my humble abode

3. When you put "profit" in quotes and outright call what I'm selling a silly waste of money having never read it for yourself, yeah, you look pretty angry. And maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me, but I'm pretty sure this thread was deleted for a minute or two. Maybe it wasn't you though.

1. Ignorance is bliss. People are sued / imprisoned ALL THE TIME for putting out information that leads others into debt or other ill fortune. You are selling something for $15 (despite repeating the phrase $0 startup). You can be held responsible for anything in that document. Google Kevin Trudeau for a textbook case. There are thousands.

2. I don't click on random links.

3. Sending you $15 for this document is absolutely silly. If you really wanted to help others as you suggest - you'd just post the how-to. That you are selling some "Dead Simple" process for $15 is shameful, but that's just my opinion, man. Also - if your thread was deleted...it would be deleted. BUT I AM ANGRY - OH SO ANGRY - I AM THE EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION!! DIE INSECT!

1. You've pivoted your point, but I'm done arguing bullshit semantics.

2. oh no, scary imgur!

3. I primarily want to make money, though knowing that people who may be in financially similar situations to myself can be significantly helped is a bonus. Not sure why I can't do both at the same time. I started out by walking people through it over skype with an agreement that they'd pay me 10% of their earnings at the end of the month. I made $6 on one, and the other two people never followed through with it. I got sick of repeating the same stuff over and over again so I decided to write it down. Why would I increase competition for myself for free? That's dumb.

It is a dead simple process, and one that I've spent the last year working the kinks out of. Anyone who doesn't want to spend $15, even though it's practically guaranteed to pay for itself at least a few times over within the first month, is free to figure it out for themselves, though I find that the likelihood of that happening to be pretty slim given the relatively unknown platform used.

And we all know mods can undelete a thread. Maybe you rage deleted it then took it back, maybe another mod did and you reinstated it, I don't know and don't really care as I've taken the liberty of saving it.

Overload wrote:1. You've pivoted your point, but I'm done arguing bullshit semantics.

3. I primarily want to make money, though knowing that people who may be in financially similar situations to myself can be significantly helped is a bonus. Not sure why I can't do both at the same time. I started out by walking people through it over skype with an agreement that they'd pay me 10% of their earnings at the end of the month. I made $6 on one, and the other two people never followed through with it. I got sick of repeating the same stuff over and over again so I decided to write it down. Why would I increase competition for myself for free? That's dumb.

4A. And we all know mods can undelete a thread.

4B. Maybe you rage deleted it then took it back, maybe another mod did and you reinstated it.

1. My point(s) remain the same as post 1. $15 is not $0. As I suspected and as you've confirmed - there isn't any of the important info in your document that is often lacking in these endeavors (taxes, setup as business, risks, disputes, etc).

3. Exactly. This whole thread isn't to help people make money as your OP suggests. It's for you to make money.

4A. We don't know that. I don't know that. I guarantee if you ask any of the other mods they don't know how / if they can do that either. Maybe an admin like Fast.

4B. OR - I RAGED ON THIS THREAD!...and now, I FEEL ICKY. GIVE ME A BIG HUG!

mjmjr25 wrote:

Overload wrote:1. You've pivoted your point, but I'm done arguing bullshit semantics.

3. I primarily want to make money, though knowing that people who may be in financially similar situations to myself can be significantly helped is a bonus. Not sure why I can't do both at the same time. I started out by walking people through it over skype with an agreement that they'd pay me 10% of their earnings at the end of the month. I made $6 on one, and the other two people never followed through with it. I got sick of repeating the same stuff over and over again so I decided to write it down. Why would I increase competition for myself for free? That's dumb.

4A. And we all know mods can undelete a thread.

4B. Maybe you rage deleted it then took it back, maybe another mod did and you reinstated it.

1. My point(s) remain the same as post 1. $15 is not $0. As I suspected and as you've confirmed - there isn't any of the important info in your document that is often lacking in these endeavors (taxes, setup as business, risks, disputes, etc).

3. Exactly. This whole thread isn't to help people make money as your OP suggests. It's for you to make money.

4A. We don't know that. I don't know that. I guarantee if you ask any of the other mods they don't know how / if they can do that either. Maybe an admin like Fast.

4B. OR - I RAGED ON THIS THREAD!...and now, I FEEL ICKY. GIVE ME A BIG HUG!

1. If I'm buying a book that teaches people how to get started drop shipping, one of the first questions that comes to mind is "how much will it cost to get started?" so that question is answered on the cover. If you can clearly see a $15 price tag, as well as a line stating "$0 startup costs" then you can deduce that the price of the guide is not included. I'm not going to insult a buyer's intelligence by making that explicit when it's obvious. I never claimed to be selling it for $0 so your point is garbage.

3. False dichotomy, it's both. If I'm selling vacuum cleaners, it's in my best interest to sell a product that helps people clean their floors. If I'm selling a guide to teach people how to make money, then it's in my best interest to make sure it does just that, and it does, as you've already heard. I also answer any questions people may have via PM as they get set up.

I guess I paid winds off, then.

I might have deleted it? I don't remember doing that, but tt's the kind of thing I would delete. If I did and didn't notify you, my bad.

More to the point, it's an exhortation to buy something that is not in the BST thread. Also, it's spammy. It reeks of something that could get folks in trouble. This thread meets several essential tick marks for being deleted. I'm surprised Mike has humored you for so many posts without deleting the thread again. But now that he's posting, I don't want to delete it and step on his toes. Lucky you.

I didn't think this was fit for a BST thread as it's not about gaming, and is something I've created.

The only possible way someone'll get in trouble is if they sell knockoffs items of trademarks, and even then they're more likely to be struck by lightning in a field of lightning rods, while in an underground bunker.

Didn't realize I was rich, that takes a load off.