Just got an HDTV, pixelated SD content

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Re: Just got an HDTV, pixelated SD content

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AppleQueso wrote:...dot crawl has nothing to do with interlaced resolutions
:roll: Not helping. Whatever you want to call it, the pic king is describing is due to the source not in HD.
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Re: Just got an HDTV, pixelated SD content

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CRTGAMER wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:...dot crawl has nothing to do with interlaced resolutions
:roll: Not helping. Whatever you want to call it, the pic king is describing is due to the source not in HD.
Difference between 480i and 480p is going to be somewhat minor, depending on whether his setup is any good when it comes to deinterlacing.

Either way, the higher the resolution source, the better.

Still, dot crawl is a composite video artifact, not a resolution problem. :P
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AppleQueso wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:...dot crawl has nothing to do with interlaced resolutions
:roll: Not helping. Whatever you want to call it, the pic king is describing is due to the source not in HD.
Difference between 480i and 480p is going to be somewhat minor, depending on whether his setup is any good when it comes to deinterlacing.

Either way, the higher the resolution source, the better.

Still, dot crawl is a composite video artifact, not a resolution problem. :P
So what is your answer to help the OP?
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Re: Just got an HDTV, pixelated SD content

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CRTGAMER wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote: :roll: Not helping. Whatever you want to call it, the pic king is describing is due to the source not in HD.
Difference between 480i and 480p is going to be somewhat minor, depending on whether his setup is any good when it comes to deinterlacing.

Either way, the higher the resolution source, the better.

Still, dot crawl is a composite video artifact, not a resolution problem. :P
So what is your answer to help the OP?

I think he was just trying to clear up any misinformation. How does your campaign for an sdtv tube tv help the OP?
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Jmustang1968 wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:
AppleQueso wrote: Still, dot crawl is a composite video artifact, not a resolution problem. :P
So what is your answer to help the OP?
I think he was just trying to clear up any misinformation. How does your campaign for an sdtv tube tv help the OP?
Indeed...

If you want a real answer, I'd probably suggest ditching the WDTV and using something else. Maybe stream videos straight from his laptop or something. The scaler in that media box is clearly crap.

Use component for everything. If it can't use component, use s-video. If it can't do s-video, well I guess you're stuck with composite for that.

Even in 480i or lower, component will still look best.

EDIT: if RGB scart is a viable option, that will look just as good as component, if not better.
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AppleQueso wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote:I think he was just trying to clear up any misinformation. How does your campaign for an sdtv tube tv help the OP?
Indeed...

If you want a real answer, I'd probably suggest ditching the WDTV and using something else. Maybe stream videos straight from his laptop or something. The scaler in that media box is clearly crap.

Use component for everything. If it can't use component, use s-video. If it can't do s-video, well I guess you're stuck with composite for that.

Even in 480i or lower, component will still look best.
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1. The primary reason is the retro consoles. I no longer can light gun with the HD, but all the consoles have a great pic including newer consoles that display in HD.

2. HDTV is still in the transition stage. There are a lot of broadcast channels that do not support HD and look horrible on a HD LCD.

HD Plasma TVs and some LED TVs are more forgiving and can display non HD signals almost as well as a Tube TV. This could be another option to try your Retro consoles on.
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WDTV isn't a tv, it's a media player box thing. I was suggesting to ditch that and just hook his laptop up to the tv or something.
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Something else that may help would be to adjust picture settings. Some noise/compression artifacts may become visible due to gamma being off (particularly).

Is it something universal to any content piped to the new TV, or are you comparing what the WDTV is doing on the TV versus what the laptop is doing on its LCD?
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I wish I went plasma. My friend's plasma looks a lot better with retro consoles than my LCD. Oh well!

Dot crawl is also not just a problem with composite. Seems often to be a scaling issue. I get dot crawl when watching DVDs on my PS3. When I had a nice Oppo BD/DVD player the dot crawl was significantly reduced or gone altogether for all those DVDs.
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Re: Just got an HDTV, pixelated SD content

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Not sure if someone mentioned this but change the aspect ration to 4:3 on the HDTV. It will pillar box the image, but it wont stretch it out...may help if you havent done this yet.
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