Something that seems to be ignored in the used games debate

[BoneSnapDeez]

This thread is kickin' ass already!

Also good for the environment:
- Those new cheap thinner game cases (with the recycle arrows punched out of them).
- PC games that don't come with physical instruction booklets, just a PDF on the disc.

(I'm not saying that I like these things, just that they're good for the environment).

And yes, people should care about the environment. We do have to live on this planet ya know.

[o.pwuaioc]

There is a clear lack of logic in that statement.

really? Enlighten me then.

I see no reason why anything related to whether there ought to be a used game market should be excluded based on how irrelevant it is to only one aspect of the debate. You can likewise say, "When considering whether my client pulled the trigger, please ignore the gun found on him because it is irrelevant to whether my client is the type of person who would do such a thing."

I sure hope that's sarcasm. I've been hearing about global warming my whole life, and I've yet to see anything come of it. It's like Santa Claus or the boogey man.

There has been a mostly slow and steady temperature increase. Now, saying humans cause it is dubious. The temps and environment have natural cycles. But there is financial and political gain to be had from it, so it has been made to be a huge issue. It has almost become like a religion thing now. You can't discuss or dispute it without someone irrationally yelling at you like above when it was compared to genocide...

Right, because the potential collapse of society is absolutely nothing like genocide. Yes, temperature has cycles, but if you would take just a brief second to look at the data, you would see that the temperatures are way higher than it would be at the high point of a normal cycle. How is that difficult to understand? The data doesn't lie, and only one who has an a priori commitment against such a thing would dare invent a conspiracy of scientists exploiting some imaginary "financial and political gain". On the contrary, the likeliness is rather that you're too lazy and selfish to give up certain habits damaging to the environment and too cowardly to admit it so.

This thread is kickin' ass already!

Also good for the environment:
- Those new cheap thinner game cases (with the recycle arrows punched out of them).
- PC games that don't come with physical instruction booklets, just a PDF on the disc.

(I'm not saying that I like these things, just that they're good for the environment).

And yes, people should care about the environment. We do have to live on this planet ya know.

*Sigh* You're right, you know. As much as I want a manual with new games, I wasn't thinking of what it would do to the environment.

[noiseredux]

I see no reason why anything related to whether there ought to be a used game market should be excluded based on how irrelevant it is to only one aspect of the debate.

um... I thought that one aspect was the debate. As I said in my original post:

the "used game debate" has to do with whether or not it's good for the video game industry.

[o.pwuaioc]

I see no reason why anything related to whether there ought to be a used game market should be excluded based on how irrelevant it is to only one aspect of the debate.

um... I thought that one aspect was the debate. As I said in my original post:

the "used game debate" has to do with whether or not it's good for the video game industry.

Since when did that become the debate? What deity granted you the power to determine that the debate over the good of used games would solely apply to the industry? As I said before in different words, that makes no sense at all.

[noiseredux]

Since when did that become the debate? What deity granted you the power to determine that the debate over the good of used games would solely apply to the industry? As I said before in different words, that makes no sense at all.

Wow. You need to calm down. As I said "I thought" that was the Used Game Debate he was referring to. I don't remember any other Used Game Debates on here recently that he would have meant instead. If he did, it was my misunderstanding. But I'm not really sure what I've done to make you so angry?

[Jmustang1968]

There has been a mostly slow and steady temperature increase. Now, saying humans cause it is dubious. The temps and environment have natural cycles. But there is financial and political gain to be had from it, so it has been made to be a huge issue. It has almost become like a religion thing now. You can't discuss or dispute it without someone irrationally yelling at you like above when it was compared to genocide...

Right, because the potential collapse of society is absolutely nothing like genocide. Yes, temperature has cycles, but if you would take just a brief second to look at the data, you would see that the temperatures are way higher than it would be at the high point of a normal cycle. How is that difficult to understand? The data doesn't lie, and only one who has an a priori commitment against such a thing would dare invent a conspiracy of scientists exploiting some imaginary "financial and political gain". On the contrary, the likeliness is rather that you're too lazy and selfish to give up certain habits damaging to the environment and too cowardly to admit it

Thanks for supporting my irrational religious point... instead of debating the issue you attack the other person, question intelligence and motives. You also completely disregard all the relevance and money certain groups and businesses make off claiming the sky is falling... if you don't think people make money and political gain off of it then you are the one with blinders on.

[Jmustang1968]

Since when did that become the debate? What deity granted you the power to determine that the debate over the good of used games would solely apply to the industry? As I said before in different words, that makes no sense at all.

Wow. You need to calm down. As I said "I thought" that was the Used Game Debate he was referring to. I don't remember any other Used Game Debates on here recently that he would have meant instead. If he did, it was my misunderstanding. But I'm not really sure what I've done to make you so angry?

People get pissed when you question their religion...

[o.pwuaioc]

But there is financial and political gain to be had from it, so it has been made to be a huge issue.

Thanks for supporting my irrational religious point... instead of debating the issue you attack the other person, question intelligence and motives.

Hypocrite, thy name is Jmustang1968.

[Erik_Twice]

Dude, why are you such a douchebag today? Can't you calm down and speak like a normal person?

[o.pwuaioc]

Since when did that become the debate? What deity granted you the power to determine that the debate over the good of used games would solely apply to the industry? As I said before in different words, that makes no sense at all.

Wow. You need to calm down. As I said "I thought" that was the Used Game Debate he was referring to. I don't remember any other Used Game Debates on here recently that he would have meant instead. If he did, it was my misunderstanding. But I'm not really sure what I've done to make you so angry?

First, I'm not angry. Second, I see now where you're coming from. BoringSupreez was talking about the used game debate in general, and not, as you appear to have thought, a particular one on this forum. That seemed clear to me and to everyone else, so for you to want to exclude seemed to be limiting the debate in an unjustified way.

Does that clear things up?