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Super late response, but:
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On a completely separate note, does anybody else think that 8-bit and 16-bit video game music will eventually get broadly recognized as its own type of folk music?

I mean, this was a highly unique genre of music whose pieces reached hundreds of thousands of people both directly and indirectly. Those pieces were also rooted in experiences, meaning that the music was almost always experienced in some associated context. Like sea shanties that evolved around specific work on sailboats or ballads that preserved the goings-on of local heroes or events, to have knowledge of a video game tune implies a mutual familiarity with a greater surrounding circumstance. It's something to connect over. Types of old gaming music even have their hallmark instrumentations, just like different types of traditional folk music have theirs (dulcimers, banjos, accordions, concertinas, etc.).

I mean, it's already functioning as folk music as it is, in my opinion, and legacy composers are getting more known and appreciated. So I'm not sure what I'm actually wondering here. Just rambling I suppose.
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I see where you are going with it, but I wouldn't say "folk" would be the right tag to put it under. It isn't one of those tags you could get to hang on it, partially due to certain (although arguable) rules or guidelines that make "folk" music what it is, and also because whoever gets to decide musical genres would have an absolute hissy fit. :lol:

I definitely see merit in the route you are suggesting though. It covers a variety of people, connects them in a way others might not understand, and expresses feelings and experiences that are central to what gaming is. I mean, thinking out loud here, I honestly don't know if games would have really survived past a certain point if music had been introduced.
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My prediction about chiptune folk music is: no. Because while people can build their own dulcimer I can't envision a future in which normal people are building their own electronic instruments. I also foresee a non-industrial world in the future so my outlook might be weird. I imagine a future in which factory-produced electronics are expensive and uncommon and the electricity needed to power them gets prioritized towards things like light bulbs and refrigerators.

One of the hallmarks of folk music as I understand it is the composer being lost to time, so that older video game composers are gaining renown doesn't matter with that front. And the fact that video game music is composed is another strike against it by my standards of folk music. Otherwise, I'm not 100% sure how you're defining "folk music." Maybe my definitions are all confused in my head?
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Forlorn Drifter wrote:It isn't one of those tags you could get to hang on it, partially due to certain (although arguable) rules or guidelines that make "folk" music what it is, and also because whoever gets to decide musical genres would have an absolute hissy fit. :lol:
:lol: It's true.

I'd argue that it fits the bill in its own way, but I completely agree that it won't catch on with the already established "folk" genre. Maybe I meant it more in the sense of "traditionals" -- meaning things like nursery rhymes and such.

I think this mostly because these video game tunes transcend their own manifestations, if that makes sense. There is no "definitive recording" of a particular chiptune because it has life beyond that. The tunes get ported from system to system -- which are all different interpretations of the same piece of music, so you're already getting that kind of passed-around folksy effect right out of the box -- and what you're left with is that a large and varied group of people can say, "Hey, that's Blanka's theme" (or "Hey, that's Street Fighter") whether they're hearing it in the arcade, on the Sega Genesis, in a club-style remix, or on kazoo. Then you also have the phenomenon of video game tunes being brought back in later installments of their game series' in remixed ways, further encouraging this kind of elasticity and melody independence in their own heyday. There's no "true Blanka's Theme," although people will certainly have their favorite and argue passionately that it's the best one. :)

And as far as instrumentation goes, I mean that its origin is in a particular instrumentation, but I don't mean to suggest that it must remain electronic. Those are two separate things in my mind. Traditional songs may originate in certain places and so might be associated with certain instruments, but the point of folk music is that it gets divorced from those kind of concrete associations as the tune is passed around and played on every instrument under the sun. If you take maritime work songs as an example, those were mostly sung without accompaniment (sometimes with a concertina on merchant vessels) while doing work on ships. People still sing these songs sans ship, and they do it at modern-day bar sings, at festivals, in popular music (The Banana Boat Song), and with or without instrumentation (which can be anything from concertina to guitar to entire orchestras). And there's already a vibrant tradition of video game covers and concerts as it is, of course.

In short, I wonder if historians will look back at the million recordings of The Windmill Hut or Zelda's Lullaby and appreciate the phenomenon as its own kind of folksy...ish... thing.
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So, what are the latest news about the Ouya?
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RCBH928 wrote:So, what are the latest news about the Ouya?
Here. I Googled this for you.

http://fortune.com/2015/04/28/exclusive ... r-quickly/
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marurun wrote:
RCBH928 wrote:So, what are the latest news about the Ouya?
Here. I Googled this for you.

http://fortune.com/2015/04/28/exclusive ... r-quickly/
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marurun wrote:
RCBH928 wrote:So, what are the latest news about the Ouya?
Here. I Googled this for you.

http://fortune.com/2015/04/28/exclusive ... r-quickly/
I know its not doing too well, but I wanted to know is their community active? Do they get exclusive games? Is it going to get discontinued or will they have a better future?

Such a sad story for something that people were so excited for.
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Ha! Super 3-D Noah's Ark is now on Steam. That's hilarious! Apparently there was lots of pent up demand for this title.
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marurun wrote:Ha! Super 3-D Noah's Ark is now on Steam. That's hilarious! Apparently there was lots of pent up demand for this title.
Who is selling it? (I am just curious as to which entity now holds the rights to Wisdom Tree's catalogue of unlicensed NES games...)
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