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Ack wrote:
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samsonlonghair wrote:It seems to me that in Presidential elections, the most important factor is the economy, which is kind of funny considering that the economy is one thing that the President has relatively little control over.
I never understood this "better economy thing" , whenever the economy goes up, it just goes down again. I heard that the economy was great during Clinton's era but bad during Bush's, and now its picking up again. I believe it takes at least 2-3 years to improve the economy. It needs to stay up longer where the whole country is improved. I guess something like Turkey, China, and India.

I care about US economy because my local currency is tied to the dollar, if it goes down everything else becomes expensive for me. There was a specific Japanese car model that used to cost $47K 12 years ago now it costs $71K . Not sure if low Dollar value or inflation.
The cost of the Japanese car is also directly caused by the value of the Japanese Yen. If the Yen is doing better against the dollar, than the car becomes more expensive. Japan's economy was relatively poor in the 1990s and early 2000s, saw improvements in the mid-2000s, and then saw new damage with the recession. As for the US economy, it did well in the post-Cold War era(particularly with the dot-com bubble), had a stumble in the early 2000s(as the dot-com bubble burst) but recovered until around 2008, where the housing crisis occurred. The stock market for the US has recovered with flying colors, but due to low interest rates, it could be argued that the stock market has been artificially propped up since no one can make money on interest from banks, which causes everyone to invest in stocks instead.
I disagree.
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jp1 wrote: I disagree.
But with which part? The Japanese economy, the US economy, the recovery of the stock market, or the current low interest rates making saving unattractive?
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Ack wrote:
jp1 wrote: I disagree.
But with which part? The Japanese economy, the US economy, the recovery of the stock market, or the current low interest rates making saving unattractive?
Just in general. You were right, there simply hasn't been sufficient conflict lately. ;)
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jp1 wrote:
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jp1 wrote: I disagree.
But with which part? The Japanese economy, the US economy, the recovery of the stock market, or the current low interest rates making saving unattractive?
Just in general. You were right, there simply hasn't been sufficient conflict lately. ;)
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jp1 wrote:Just in general. You were right, there simply hasn't been sufficient conflict lately. ;)
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To quote my wife, "I'm sure an old lady is behind it all."
Some pretty big discussion about this among the people I know, seeing as a lot do work or go to school in Waco. That Twin Peaks was apparently known for bikers and general riff raff. Can't say I'm particularly surprised though, the Bandidos have Texas pretty well under control, and they don't like anybody else coming into their turf.
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Ack wrote:had a stumble in the early 2000s(as the dot-com bubble burst) but recovered until around 2008, where the housing crisis occurred.
See, this is what I mean. Between early "2000s" and 2008 is just not enough time for the economy to get fixed. Its just too fast. I can't imagine a British guy looking at the US economy in early 2001 and saying "Doesn't look good I will not invest" , then in 2004 he would say "Looks like a good place to invest money" and by 2008 he goes "Thats it! I will withdraw my money from there".

Business work in 5 years time frame, if the economy will fluctuate every 6 to 8 years its just not enough time. Sometimes that is shorter than the lifespan of 1 product like say 360. Probably launched in a strong economy, then 2008 economy down, then in 2012 picked up again.
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RCBH928 wrote:
Ack wrote:had a stumble in the early 2000s(as the dot-com bubble burst) but recovered until around 2008, where the housing crisis occurred.
See, this is what I mean. Between early "2000s" and 2008 is just not enough time for the economy to get fixed. Its just too fast. I can't imagine a British guy looking at the US economy in early 2001 and saying "Doesn't look good I will not invest" , then in 2004 he would say "Looks like a good place to invest money" and by 2008 he goes "Thats it! I will withdraw my money from there".

Business work in 5 years time frame, if the economy will fluctuate every 6 to 8 years its just not enough time. Sometimes that is shorter than the lifespan of 1 product like say 360. Probably launched in a strong economy, then 2008 economy down, then in 2012 picked up again.
See, here's the thing, the economy continues to build. It has failings and missteps, corrections and faults, but it almost inevitably grows. So a guy who looks at it for such a short term is really not doing himself any favors. In investments, you generally want to look at the long haul. There are short term tricks, and you can get lucky, but the long game is where you put your holdings.

As an example, I spent $100 in 1999 to buy 18 shares of Nike stock(roughly $5.55 per share). A stock split occurred in the mid 2000s, so I now have 33 shares. It is now 2015, 16 years later. The US economy has been through a couple of economic bubble bursts, including the Great Recession. My Nike stock is now worth roughly $105 a share, meaning my $100 has become $3465, a 346.5% increase.
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I still want to know what effect this trillion-level debt and quantitative easing will have on the world economy a few decades from now? The money printing can't go on forever.
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Luke wrote:Nine dead. Those are sons of anarchy numbers.
Dumb joke previously made.

I'm guessing the Bandidos started all of this, but that's a 50/50 guess. I'm guessing only by numbers as the Bandidos control most of the Southwest. Either way, I'm not happy how the media is comparing the cops in this situation to Ferguson, s this was a shootout, not a riot.
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