Its now possible to play backups by flashing Saturn Carts!

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Re: Its now possible to play backups by flashing Saturn Cart

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Anybody have luck flashing a madness replay pro? My poor chip stopped working :( time for another solution...
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Couple of questions...

1) Will there be any issues of using a flashed AR Cart on a console that already has a modchip?

My console seems to be having some issues (X-Men vs. Street Fighter will freeze and give slightly glitchy graphics, long load times and take me back to that Saturn music player thing; but Mortal Kombat Trilogy plays perfectly fine). So I want to go ahead and flash this AR Cart so I have it flashed just in case I have to buy another Saturn console if my current console breaks.

2) Can a flashed cart get around playing Panzer Dragoon Saga? I believe that is the only Saturn game that prompts you to start the game again without a cart inserted. Or is there no way of playing the game with a flash cart inserted?
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One thing I was wondering... I have a chip in my Saturn. Say I flash an AR cart to read burns. Now let's say I remove my mod chip. Can I use the AR cart to boot the disc to flash another AR cart? (I'd have to remove the first AR cart and insert the second one).
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Mad_Hatter wrote:Couple of questions...

1) Will there be any issues of using a flashed AR Cart on a console that already has a modchip?

My console seems to be having some issues so I want to go ahead and flash this AR Cart so I have it flashed just in case I have to buy another Saturn console if my current console breaks. But I don't want to go ahead and flash this chipped console if it won't work with a flashed AR Cart.

2) Can a flashed cart get around playing Panzer Dragoon Saga? I believe that is the only Saturn game that prompts you to start the game again without a cart inserted. Or is there no way of playing the game with a flash cart inserted?
Anyone got the answers to these 2 questions?

btw, have they made any progress with keeping the backup save function?
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I have a chipped Saturn. I recently picked up a second AR cart that I can flash, I was planning on doing it soon.

I don't see why there would be any issues with your first question, aside from not being able to test if the flashed AR cart can boot a burn on a chipped console. And I believe I have a burn of Panzer Dragoon Saga, so I'll try and test that out for you when I get around to flashing my AR.

I have to admit, this is a lot less interesting after learning about the Rhea thing. Although, I suppose, Rhea is for after your CD drive is dead, and the flashed AR/GS carts are before it's dead. Either way, I hope they continue to work on and improve both.
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Ziggy587 wrote:I have a chipped Saturn. I recently picked up a second AR cart that I can flash, I was planning on doing it soon.

I don't see why there would be any issues with your first question, aside from not being able to test if the flashed AR cart can boot a burn on a chipped console. And I believe I have a burn of Panzer Dragoon Saga, so I'll try and test that out for you when I get around to flashing my AR.

I have to admit, this is a lot less interesting after learning about the Rhea thing. Although, I suppose, Rhea is for after your CD drive is dead, and the flashed AR/GS carts are before it's dead. Either way, I hope they continue to work on and improve both.
Thanks.

Yea, the Rhea looks pretty good. But it's a little pricey atm. And I think it's going to need 1-2 years for it to be easier to use and less complicated compared to flashing an AR and playing CD-Rs. If it gets as easy to use as the Dreamcast GDEMU, I would buy it.

But eventually, lot of us are going to be using the Rhea when the lasers die out on the Saturns. It's going to save a lot of Saturns.
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Mad_Hatter wrote:1) Will there be any issues of using a flashed AR Cart on a console that already has a modchip?


You can use the flashed cartridge on a chipped console. I do it when I want to boot a JP region backup on my US modded Saturn.
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^^ Thanks

And I found out that you can actually patch Panzer Dragoon Saga to bypass the "Remove Cartridge" popup. So there's that. I will just burn another copy and patch it.

Anybody know if this project made any progress with allowing you to flash the Cart and also keeping the save backup function? I don't care about cheat functions, but the save backup is one that I need.
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Saves unfortunately are not implemented yet, but direct saving to cart is planned in the future.

There hasn't been much news lately on it but I check all the time to make sure.
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Anthony817 wrote:but direct saving to cart is planned in the future.

Wow, if they get that done, I'd be super impressed.
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