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The wording of "Jew food" makes it sound like dog food - that kind of phrasing just carries negative connotations. It's tough to think of a direct comparison because "Jew" can be such a versatile word. It's not quite the same as calling Chinese food "chink food" because "chink" is inherently a slur, but it's KIND OF like that.
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I don't know much about Jewish food but I thank them for bagels and pastrami.

If you're ever in New York City you're required to try both.
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Must be a language barrier or something. If African-Americans refer to themselves as "Black" so much so they have a channel called Black Entertainment Television (BET) then I guess ok to say black food just like Chinese food.

Any way, I find it interesting that the Jewish(is this the plural form?) have a common food cuisine given that they are spread all around the world. Its hard to imagine a Jewish family in Argentina in 1750 would eat pastrami and bagels just like the Jewish family in Germany. A cuisine is usually geographically based despite religion or race.
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RCBH928 wrote:Any way, I find it interesting that the Jewish(is this the plural form?) have a common food cuisine given that they are spread all around the world. Its hard to imagine a Jewish family in Argentina in 1750 would eat pastrami and bagels just like the Jewish family in Germany. A cuisine is usually geographically based despite religion or race.

Well, there's actually a few distinct groups from the Jewish Diaspora that have their own cuisines, though even then there's some stuff in common (such as Passover dishes). The thing is that the majority of Jews in America are Ashkenazi, Jews from Eastern Europe, and that group shares a common set of foods either from their origin or what was developed after immigrating to America. That group of Jews was a big part of founding movie and TV studios and so the general idea of Jewish culture comes from that.
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MrPopo wrote:
RCBH928 wrote:Any way, I find it interesting that the Jewish(is this the plural form?) have a common food cuisine given that they are spread all around the world. Its hard to imagine a Jewish family in Argentina in 1750 would eat pastrami and bagels just like the Jewish family in Germany. A cuisine is usually geographically based despite religion or race.

Well, there's actually a few distinct groups from the Jewish Diaspora that have their own cuisines, though even then there's some stuff in common (such as Passover dishes). The thing is that the majority of Jews in America are Ashkenazi, Jews from Eastern Europe, and that group shares a common set of foods either from their origin or what was developed after immigrating to America. That group of Jews was a big part of founding movie and TV studios and so the general idea of Jewish culture comes from that.


Also deli culture in the US, particularly in the New York area, which is why so much Jewish food is associated with New York City as well.
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The American conception of Jewish food and culture is, then, essentially, New York Jewish food and culture. I imagine Jewish food and culture in, say, Israel, is quite a bit different in many regards.
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marurun wrote:The American conception of Jewish food and culture is, then, essentially, New York Jewish food and culture. I imagine Jewish food and culture in, say, Israel, is quite a bit different in many regards.

Very much so. In the food there's a much higher influence from the various Middle Eastern dishes, for example. And the other culture evolves from a condition of being surrounded by countries that have tried on multiple occasions to completely wipe you out.
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Ack wrote:
MrPopo wrote:
RCBH928 wrote:Any way, I find it interesting that the Jewish(is this the plural form?) have a common food cuisine given that they are spread all around the world. Its hard to imagine a Jewish family in Argentina in 1750 would eat pastrami and bagels just like the Jewish family in Germany. A cuisine is usually geographically based despite religion or race.

Well, there's actually a few distinct groups from the Jewish Diaspora that have their own cuisines, though even then there's some stuff in common (such as Passover dishes). The thing is that the majority of Jews in America are Ashkenazi, Jews from Eastern Europe, and that group shares a common set of foods either from their origin or what was developed after immigrating to America. That group of Jews was a big part of founding movie and TV studios and so the general idea of Jewish culture comes from that.


Also deli culture in the US, particularly in the New York area, which is why so much Jewish food is associated with New York City as well.


marurun wrote:The American conception of Jewish food and culture is, then, essentially, New York Jewish food and culture. I imagine Jewish food and culture in, say, Israel, is quite a bit different in many regards.


You know, it's not necessarily a mistake to associate Jewish Culture with New York. There's more than three times as many Jews living in NYC compared to Jerusalem. Really. According to this source, there are more than two million Jews in NYC. According to the Israeli government census, there are only six hundred eighty thousand Jews in Jerusalem. Based on population, you can assert that New York is more Jewish than Jerusalem.

Granted, that's not the only way to consider the Jewish culture, but it is still a legitimate viewpoint. It's not just the media influencing how we view Jews; It's not just TV and movie studios; It's also a viable assessment.
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samsonlonghair wrote:You know, it's not necessarily a mistake to associate Jewish Culture with New York. There's more than three times as many Jews living in NYC compared to Jerusalem. Really. According to this source, there are more than two million Jews in NYC. According to the Israeli government census, there are only six hundred eighty thousand Jews in Jerusalem. Based on population, you can assert that New York is more Jewish than Jerusalem.

Granted, that's not the only way to consider the Jewish culture, but it is still a legitimate viewpoint. It's not just the media influencing how we view Jews; It's not just TV and movie studios; It's also a viable assessment.


Careful, there. You're skirting awfully close to statistics territory, and I wouldn't want you to accidentally rely on something you don't believe in. :wink:
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Along those lines, it was only recently that the number of Jews in Israel was greater than the number of Jews in the US.
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