Game collecting is not what it once was

[mjmjr25]

For you, our claiming to have "beaten" the game is demeaning. To us, your claim that we haven't because we can't even begin to wrap our heads around the game for a 1CC or have the time/energy/capability/desire/skill to get to such a point is also demeaning.

I don't feel demeaned at all? It's an opinion, man.

I don't think credit feeding through a game is beating it. It doesn't meet my definition. Truly, i'm sorry if that opinion is demeaning, but i'm not going to not share it either.

I am nowhere near the level of player some guys are at, but I would absolutely roll my eyes if someone puts Deathsmiles on their "beaten" list and they used multiple credits to do so.

[mjmjr25]

Mike, what does the view of Mount Shmuplympus look like from your throne? I imagine it's pretty beautiful, with seas of pink bullets exploding our ships with unyielding tenacity. Do you feel any sense of remorse or guilt knowing our plight?! We will never be worthy!

TEACH US TEACH US TEACH US!

I sit at the right hand of Doc Hauser; a man who knows no bounds of mercy.

[Hobie-wan]

I am nowhere near the level of player some guys are at, but I would absolutely roll my eyes if someone puts Deathsmiles on their "beaten" list and they used multiple credits to do so.

Whelp, I guess action games and FPS better be finished on one run without saving either since you could reload saves or continue.

[MrPopo]

Let's find some common ground. Can we all agree that there's a good number of shumps (not all, some restart you at the level start/checkpoint if you continue) where you are guaranteed to see the end credits if you credit feed?

That being the case, doesn't it make sense to set some sort of limit to consider beating it as an accomplishment? Otherwise you could set a turbo controller on autofire, go upstairs and cook dinner, then come back downstairs and see the credits and say "Yup, I beat it."

[BoneSnapDeez]

Ya know, I'm probably as invested in old ass JRPGs as some folks here are in shmups. I import PCE / Super Fami / Saturn imports and play through them in their original Japanese. I'm a member of RPG forums where we discuss these games. But if someone wants to download a fan-translated "easy mode" version and play through it on SNES9X using savestates to pass the hard parts more power to them. Gives me one more person to discuss the game with. And their experience isn't any "inferior" to mine, it's just different.

Not sure why some of you are so concerned with how others play/beat games. If you wanna be "hardcore" that's fine and dandy, but don't disparage those who aren't.

That being the case, doesn't it make sense to set some sort of limit to consider beating it as an accomplishment? Otherwise you could set a turbo controller on autofire, go upstairs and cook dinner, then come back downstairs and see the credits and say "Yup, I beat it."

No one actually does this though.

[Sarge]

NO! We must all remain at loggerheads over this!

Honestly, some folks have already said it before: some games are meant to be beaten (eventually) on 1CC, and some aren't. Some are designed for both!

I know it's a completely different genre, but I wouldn't claim someone hasn't beaten the NES Contra if they haven't pulled it off on a single continue. I would probably take issue if they could only do it with the 30-lives code, but even then, I just usually keep my mouth shut... or I mention that I'm working on and off on a one-life run (two is my best!).

[Hobie-wan]

That being the case, doesn't it make sense to set some sort of limit to consider beating it as an accomplishment? Otherwise you could set a turbo controller on autofire, go upstairs and cook dinner, then come back downstairs and see the credits and say "Yup, I beat it."

No one actually does this though.

There are some games without timers, but have safe spots and respawning enemies where you could cheese a high score by putting a rubber band around your controller and leaving it running overnight.

I know there are some more recent bullet hell shmups that you'll always have a round 100 (or was it 10) score unless you continue. So someone's high score would be say XXXXXX300 for 1XX, but XXXXXX340 if you'd continued 4 times. Though of course most games just reset your score if you continue.

But anyway. Everybody has their own criteria for beating things and this isn't Twin Galaxies. So just take other people's "beaten" with a grain of salt and move on with your day.

[Blu]

I sit at the right hand of Doc Hauser; a man who knows no bounds of mercy.

I have had a vision of your throne, is this close to the reality?

[Ack]

For you, our claiming to have "beaten" the game is demeaning. To us, your claim that we haven't because we can't even begin to wrap our heads around the game for a 1CC or have the time/energy/capability/desire/skill to get to such a point is also demeaning.

I don't feel demeaned at all? It's an opinion, man.

I don't think credit feeding through a game is beating it. It doesn't meet my definition. Truly, i'm sorry if that opinion is demeaning, but i'm not going to not share it either.

I am nowhere near the level of player some guys are at, but I would absolutely roll my eyes if someone puts Deathsmiles on their "beaten" list and they used multiple credits to do so.

Chief, the hardest shmup I've ever beaten is Axelay. I don't think I have ever beaten one you can credit feed on, all of them had continues. Are there any credit feeders on the SNES?

[dsheinem]

But anyway. Everybody has their own criteria for beating things and this isn't Twin Galaxies. So just take other people's "beaten" with a grain of salt and move on with your day.

Which is how things are handled in the "Games Beaten" threads, generally. It is interesting to have this discussion, though.

Perhaps we could split out the past umpteen pages of this discussion into another thread? starting with: http://racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 32#p963332