Weird Science: There is no spoon

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Weird Science: There is no spoon

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As I type this, the internet is abuzz about a blue and black dress... or is it gold and white?

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As you look at the dress, some of you will swear up and down that the dress is blue and black, while others will just as adamantly believe it is white and gold. I personally see it as blue and black with some ability to alter my perception to a goldish black and blueish white, but my wife only sees it as white and gold. Since we are both in psychology, we asked for an explanation from a friend of ours who works in the area of visual perception, and actually has done specialized research in the area of individual differences in color perception. This image is blowing his mind too because you don't usually see such huge variance in what people perceive.

Basically, what is going on is that our brains are making things up. If you turn back to your basic grade school biology, you will recall that the color of an object is actually the result of that object reflecting back the light frequency of that color, while absorbing the rest of the light frequencies. But there is more to it than that. You also have to filter out the spectrum of the illuminant objects such as light bulbs or the sun. This allows you to make figure/background distinctions and not just get lost in the wash of light. Your brain is doing some computation here to give you a sensible experience, so it's also taking the surrounding context of the object into account. For a more clear example, view this optical illusion:
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The yellow dots in those two pictures are the exact same color. The grey squares behind them are also the exact same colors. Don't believe me? Cover the other areas of the grid with your hand, and look at just the two squares. Better yet, use MSPaint or Photoshop to cut out the squares with dots and put them side by side on a white backdrop. Suddenly you will see that they are identical. Since you are looking at a 2D static image, your brain is taking the shading of the context into consideration as it tells you what color these things are. They end up not looking identical, though they actually are. Your brain is adapting for what it believes to be colors due to the illuminants and reflectants in the picture, but it's sort of wrong.

In the case of the dress, a big part of the distinction is also in how accustomed people are to adapting for natural light or electrical light. Those that are more used to adapting to electrical light are more likely to see the black & blue image, or so I've read.

But our friend who is the visual perception expert challenged us to think about the meaning of this finding a little bit deeper. Our perception of reality is not reality. It's an approximation. An experience that is both empowered by our biology, but also limited by our biology. We don't have a pure way of understanding everything about light, and color is kind of a thing our brains made up to make sense of it, but they are fallible and can be wrong- even though you feel with certainty that you are seeing blue & black... or white & gold. As Alfred Korzybski famously said "The map is not the territory", or the Buddha before him "My finger pointing towards the moon is not the moon" (which was the Buddha's way of explaining that his teachings were not enlightenment, but simply instructions about a way towards enlightenment).

Similarly, we don't perceive the world the same way that other animals do. Bats can use echolocation to hear with such fine grained fidelity that it gives them a similar amount of information about their environment that sight gives us humans. Dolphins use sonar. Many fish have electroception, that allows them to perceive electromagnetic fields to perceive other things in the ocean. Humans have no way of truly understanding the experience of these animals because they lack the needed perceptual abilities. I bring up the classic Matrix line that "there is no spoon" because really, our brain's thoughts and perceptions are just cognitive maps of reality that don't fully represent the entirety of the territory. They are inaccurate projections. We only understand reality through our perception, but there is so much more there that we cannot perceive, and even some things we do perceive that actually are not there.

There are actually lots of cool optical illusions (and other perceptual illusions) out there, and I recommend looking them up and learning about the boundaries of your perceptual systems' accuracy. One of my favorites is the spinning dancer. You will likely see her spinning clockwise, but if you look at her in a certain way you can also see her as spinning counter-clockwise. It helps if you first tell yourself that her planted leg is either her right or left leg and then force yourself to believe that, then you can mentally reverse the spin.
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Here's another version of the spinning dancer with additional over-layed visual cues to aid you in seeing her spin both ways
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For a fantastic auditory illusion, here is a trick that can make you believe in satanic messages in Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven", but is better explained again by your brain filling in the blanks when given the words beforehand to fill the sounds into:


And one final take on the Blue & Black vs White & Gold optical illusion:
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In the future, might it be possible to expand our perceptual abilities either through biotechnological manipulations? Perhaps via genetic manipulation or some bio-tech interface with sensors and mental processors we don't currently have?
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I'm colorblind. To me that dress is "purple."
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I can see how someone could get blue, purple, or white for the one color on the dress;
...but how does anyone get Black for the other color? Mustard, gold, yellow, or tan is the only real choices I could make.

Also, I don't trust the lighting in that pic. White can be tinted in so many ways based on lighting conditions.

Otherwise, I love optical illusions. Not the magician type, the type like these where your own brain is playing the tricks.
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MC Escher-ish
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Top and Bottom are exact same color - as JT said, copy and past to MS paint or whatnot if you can't see it:
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This will come as no surprise to those of you in the blue and black camp, but those of you that saw white and gold will be shocked to see a clearer photo of the dress where the lighting doesn't create the optical illusion:

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Blue and black is what I initially saw.
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CITIZEN! DON'T BE CONFUSED!

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THERE IS A SPOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I like the spinning dancer. I've seen it before. For me, I'd see it spin one way, then look down at the shadow at which point I would see her spin the other way. It's a fun illusion
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With a partner, take a board, book, or piece of paper. Tell your partner to draw a vertical line with their finger (don't hit spoiler until you've both done it).
Most people will make the line from top to bottom but a fair percentage will do it from bottom to top...and they will do it the same way every time
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I've always been fascinated by these branches of science, the limits of our perception and how much of what we perceive about the world around us is also filtered through our beliefs about said world.

Not everything is as real as we think it is.
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