College Advice?

[AppleQueso]

You should see a psychologist. You need to learn how to cope with your depression and your sociopatchic views. You need to learn how to empathize with other people and gain some self-steem.

Until then, I don't think there's anything we can do to help you.

Depression? Not depressed. Sociopathic? Not even close, and its offensive you suggest such a thing.. Empathize? When someone empathizes with me, in a real way, not telling me to go take happy pills, I might start to. Self esteem? Nice way of saying ego.

I totally understand your aversion to those sorts of drugs. The side effects can be pretty nasty to say the least, and taking anything designed to alter your neurology can be pretty frightening.

I really do think you'd likely benefit from seeing a good therapist, but that's not my place to say.

As someone who's also been on the end of having people tell her that she needs 'professional help,' it's pretty dang insulting.

[marurun]

I have sought help before. The talk therapy only did so much for me. And so much depends on the relationship between the counselor and the patient. Truth told, the medications, once you know how they affect you, are much more predictable and stable. And some people need them. Just a fact of life for those folks. I won't begrudge folks things that make their lives better. Take religion, for example. I have little patience for it, and I get frustrated at the organized arms of religion all the time. But on a personal level, if spirituality is what makes someone's life better, who am I to criticize? Some studies have shown that true believers are, in some cases, happier.

[jp1]

As a person with loved ones who have needed and benefited from "professional help". I don't see it as an insult. It's the same in my opinion as suggesting someone who is experiencing chest pain seek medical attention.

Of course that depends on both the manner and the reason it is being suggested.

Mental illness, depression, anxiety, etc, are not shameful afflictions. It is irresponsible not to seek help for these issues if you actually need it. It doesn't only affect your life, the lives of everyone close to you stand to be improved by you getting healthy.

I say this in general, not to anyone specifically.

AQ, you obviously had other things to work through that were causing you turmoil. Having realized the improvement those changes have made in your general happiness, surely you could appreciate that necessary help (albeit different from yours) can be truly beneficial.

[samsonlonghair]

Come on guys, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Forlorn already made it clear that he's not interested in seeking professional help at this point. Stop beating the dead horse. Let Forlorn be forlorn for now. Leave him be.

[Forlorn Drifter]

I don't want to take ANY kind of pill that changes the way I think, and therapy will do me no good. The only type of therapists up here at the school are the lovey dovey kind who touch you too much and try and make you meditate and crap.

Putting people on meds is the modern equivalent of throwing someone in a sanitarium and forgetting you know them. Its a good thing they don't diagnose female hysteria anymore, otherwise there would be a problem. I think about how many people my age are on ADHD medicine who don't have it and still take the medicine. I also think about how pretty much everybody I've ever met who took any type of pill that had an effect on how they thought either became an addict, were despondent when they were on it, or despondent when they weren't on it.

[jp1]

Come on guys, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Forlorn already made it clear that he's not interested in seeking professional help at this point. Stop beating the dead horse. Let Forlorn be forlorn for now. Leave him be.

I'm on board. That last post was not directed at Forlorn. I was responding in general about the validity and importance of psychiatric care. I just wanted to put it out there that it isn't necessarily an insult.

I don't want to take ANY kind of pill that changes the way I think, and therapy will do me no good. The only type of therapists up here at the school are the lovey dovey kind who touch you too much and try and make you meditate and crap.

Putting people on meds is the modern equivalent of throwing someone in a sanitarium and forgetting you know them. Its a good thing they don't diagnose female hysteria anymore, otherwise there would be a problem. I think about how many people my age are on ADHD medicine who don't have it and still take the medicine. I also think about how pretty much everybody I've ever met who took any type of pill that had an effect on how they thought either became an addict, were despondent when they were on it, or despondent when they weren't on it.

My mother suffers from bipolar disorder and depression and let me be the first to tell you, you do not want to run into her when she is off her meds on a bad day. They make all the difference in the world for leveling her out. I notice no other changes or dependencies. Just saying.

[Luke]

The only type of therapists up here at the school are the lovey dovey kind who touch you too much

They touch you?

In that case sue the school and use that money to meet with an actual psychologist.

I'll add that my Sister, who can be a bit wacky herself, is one of the most prominent psychologists in the South East, with her fields of expertise including eating disorders, self afflicted harm, depression, and sexual dimorphism.

She has changed hundreds of lives, with the majority of her patients not wanting to go to therapy, rather family or friends encouraged it. She has dealt with spoiled rich girls to women close to death because of their issues.

Point in short: A good therapist can change your life for the better. And that's general advice for everyone.

[Forlorn Drifter]

Not that type of touch. Like putting a hand on your shoulder, or hugging, or making people hold hands in group stuff, etc. I see it all the type in therapist and psychologist types.

And I flat out won't take medicine that changes the way I think. It could change who I am. That's one of the scariest things I have ever heard of. In fact, I honestly get sick to my stomach thinking about it. It might fix my problems, but what else might it change? And I might not even have any problems, just shit self esteem, and in that case, I can only change it myself, which won't happen.

[Golgo 14]

And I flat out won't take medicine that changes the way I think. It could change who I am. That's one of the scariest things I have ever heard of. In fact, I honestly get sick to my stomach thinking about it. It might fix my problems, but what else might it change?

Your conception of psychiatric medicine is laughable.

Come on guys, you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Forlorn already made it clear that he's not interested in seeking professional help at this point. Stop beating the dead horse. Let Forlorn be forlorn for now. Leave him be.

This particular episode will die out in a day or two. The problem is that the cycle will start all over again with another self-pitying sob story.

JP1's question from earlier needs to be answered:

How exactly do you wish for people to interact with you? You don't want compliments, you don't want constructive advice, you don't want feedback on the problems you talk about, are we just an audience or what?

My guess is that he'd like a nice chorus of, "Boo hoo. It's so unfair. Nothing will ever change for you. I'm so sorry. etc."

[Forlorn Drifter]

I answered jp's question in a pm, you insufferable twat.

And no, I don't know anything about psychiatric medicine, but then again a lot of depression meds can increase suicidal thoughts, so that seems counterproductive as shit, doesn't it?