Game collecting is not what it once was

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Ashrei wrote:Could you elaborate as to what you mean by deeper than the ocean? Does that mean it's just big? Why did you find it fun to collect for? What was fun about it?
Certainly. I own over 300 PS1 games. Despite the size of my collection, however, there are still 150+ games on my "want" list for the console, and I am constantly learning about new and interesting games. (Did you know that there is a billiards/JRPG hybrid for the PS1? There is. Likewise, did you know that one of the best kart racers of its generation is a PS1 game featuring the Muppets and developed by Traveler's Tales?) I have read that approximately 7600 different games were released for the PS1 in various regions, and despite having collected games for the system for well over a decade, I keep wondering when I will have found out about all of the interesting and unique games that were released for that system.

Also, and as I mentioned earlier, PS1 games are relatively inexpensive, and it is no difficult to obtain some very good games, in complete condition, for $1 or $2. Moreover, even the system's most expensive games, are not that expensive. Accordingly, it is easy to build a large collection of great games for relatively little money.
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Ack wrote:
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prfsnl_gmr wrote: Good! It is very fun collecting for that system, and it is easy to play the games on modern hardware (and, therefore, on modern televisions). Moreover, and as I have stated many times on this forum, the PS1's library is deeper than the ocean; so if you start collecting for it, you will probably discover a lot of great games.
Could you elaborate as to what you mean by deeper than the ocean? Does that mean it's just big? Why did you find it fun to collect for? What was fun about it?


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Yeah, it's big. Huge even, probably one of the most largest and most diverse collections of games there is. Every genre is represented in some form or fashion. There are some downsides of course(easily damaged CDs and cases, early 3D graphics, evolving ideas on controls, etc.), but if you can accept those, the diversity you'll find is quite incredible.

For example, you mentioned RPGs and show that you have some of the biggest names, but there is so much more! Wild Arms, Breath of Fire 3 and 4, Saga Frontier and Saga Frontier 2, Beyond the Beyond, Lunar: Silver Star Story, Jade Cocoon, Legend of Legaia, Legend of Mana, Chrono Cross, Azure Dreams, Saiyuki Journey West, Front Mission 3, Xenogears, Thousand Arms, just to name a few. The genre exploded on the PS1 after FF7's popularity. There's a lot of research to conduct and a lot of games to check out. And that's just one genre.

And that's not to mention survival horror, platformers, fighting games, racing, sports, FPS, so on and so forth.

For the most part, I think I will collect RPGs on whatever console I see them for in the wild. It's not like I'm gonna pass on the good RPGs on the SNES if I see them. Don't get me wrong, I do like them. For me though, the 16 bit RPGs have never had the emotional impact that ps1 RPGs do.

For instance, when Aeris dies in FF7, I really felt sad. That's a generic situation but you get the point. I want more games like that. I want to discover more. Can any rpg live up to that on ps1?


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Ack wrote:Just a quick one, but always check the music section in thrift stores.
This this thissssss this this this THIS

The music section at the Goodwill here ALWAYS has all sorts of good stuff. Here's what I found so far amongst the music CDs -

Medal of Honor Allied Assault (PC)
Ghost Recon Gold Edition (PC)
Re-Volt (Dreamcast)

Plus there's always PS1 games and smaller budget PC titles. If they don't have the box, they'll always be in with the music.

Also be sure to check the DVDs carefully! PS2, Xbox, GC stuff goes in there all the time!
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I do agree regarding collecting for certain systems in terms of how far back one should go. 7th generation is the perfect thing to collect for. Dirt cheap DS games (save for Mario and Pokemon), PS3 and 360 games are easy to find considering Gamestop still supports them and can be a goldmine during the BO2GO1 sales.

Hey anyone can collect for any system just understand what you are getting yourself into and don't get hit with sticker shock.

Now in terms of 6th generaion consoles I have seen prices slowly increase. Could be where I live who knows. Xbox prices for big games have gone up.
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prfsnl_gmr wrote:I have read that approximately 7600 different games were released for the PS1 in various regions, and despite having collected games for the system for well over a decade, I keep wondering when I will have found out about all of the interesting and unique games that were released for that system.
Yeah, at this point a lot of the other consoles have been mined out pretty well. We know the hidden gems for the SNES, the N64, the Dreamcast, and so on. Most of the hidden gems for the Saturn have to be imported. But the PS1? Good God, there's stuff hidden away in there that nobody has ever heard of, stuff that has only recently begun to generate buzz. Stuff like The Note, a survival horror game where the viewscreen is literally your eye, and as you take damage you close your eye so you can see less and less of what is going on. Or Hellnight, which has slowly gotten more and more attention as people dive into what else the horror genre has to offer.

I do look forward to the day where games like Glass Rose start getting more attention.
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Ack wrote:
prfsnl_gmr wrote:I have read that approximately 7600 different games were released for the PS1 in various regions, and despite having collected games for the system for well over a decade, I keep wondering when I will have found out about all of the interesting and unique games that were released for that system.
Yeah, at this point a lot of the other consoles have been mined out pretty well. We know the hidden gems for the SNES, the N64, the Dreamcast, and so on. Most of the hidden gems for the Saturn have to be imported. But the PS1? Good God, there's stuff hidden away in there that nobody has ever heard of, stuff that has only recently begun to generate buzz. Stuff like The Note, a survival horror game where the viewscreen is literally your eye, and as you take damage you close your eye so you can see less and less of what is going on. Or Hellnight, which has slowly gotten more and more attention as people dive into what else the horror genre has to offer.

I do look forward to the day where games like Glass Rose start getting more attention.
You kinda inspire me. Not gonna lie. I need to play these horror games and wet my knickers.


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Keep in mind, both The Note and Hellnight are imports. But if you're wanting to look into some of the more obscure horror games for the PS1, I recommend checking out Martian Gothic: Unification, the Overblood series, or even the RPG Koudelka.

Or if you would prefer to laugh at the game, Countdown: Vampires.
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Ashrei wrote:
foxhound1022 wrote:What I was saying is there are a lot of people out there who check flea markets, yard sales, etc., that are buying up games for the sole purpose of reselling. They are only interested in profit, and I personally liked hunting for games "in the wild". That really is almost nonexistent, at least in my local area.

That is what I find frustrating.

Thank you. I ind it very frustrating as well. Enough to make a thread about it. It really bums me out.
I've got a unique feel for this too because I started out in one state, moved back to another in the middle of this abuse of the hobby. I was out in CA a few years and did the flea weekly on sunday, a $20 could go a long way with old NES etc carts. About 1/2 into that 3 year stint one crook showed up with family, cleaned out the regulars for a few weeks in a row, took the stuff to a central booth and charged prices you see now 4 years ago! They got mad, it all went up. Once he couldn't sucker people, he packed up and left for good with the booth. Prices never went back, just part of the way, so that same $20 would get maybe 1/4 or 1/3 of the stuff (if that some weeks, and some weeks had nothing.)

When I came back here 2 years ago for the first six months the local pair of chains were still old school pricing whereas CA went to the predators on craigslist and the flea market. The national chain Half Price Books started using the highest paid prices mid 2013 from ebay (I often call them Buy it Now Books now as it spread to everything there.) It forced the local shop to match them because people would clean them out of stock and little would come in. Fleas around here don't get games, this is more of an antique, vintage stuff, etc area. Games here are more or less non-existent, but I did see a window where it took KY awhile to catch to to CA.

It means your mileage may vary but as time rolls along it will go bad everywhere. I was into it greatly for the hunt, it was like finding buried treasure, and I kept what was fun and flipped/traded the others for things I wanted too. That for me is dead. What bothers me most is that it's a re-run of a childhood of fun that was taken from me because as a kid on a little allowance I was all about comics and baseball cards. In the start of the 90s, what is going on in games now happened then to that, but since online wasn't a thing shops popped up everywhere as did trolls waiting around stores and want ads. Stuff I could get handily I ended up having to get a list to just to read and it wasn't sure, and in turn if I wanted what I missed I could pay 2-3x the amount due to some douche who bought up the stock. I ended up not being able to afford either and had to quit buying both. So I get steamed when I see it happening now to games as it's the same crap, different decade. I just get satisfaction knowing in time these jerks will suffer for it when prices are driven up enough it will push away but the most clueless, rabid, and just other resellers trying to poach off each other pricing the majority out. That in itself like the cards and comics won't be sustainable and it'll implode, and patient people who still care can then swoop in laugh at their misery and get some goodies.
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Probably being an idealist here, but one thing I'm disappointed I don't see is communities like Racketboy, NA, etc. working together on prices a little more.

It IS good that usually you trade/buy/sell with people that are all on the same page: let's all save a few bucks compared to eBay and whatnot. On the other hand we still nickel and dime each other a little much on little things.

Take manuals and stuff. I am happy to sell you any manual I find for $1 or $2, maybe $4 or $5 if the game is fairly pricey (I'm talking $50 and above). Super rare games? Okay we're probably talking a decent amount. Thing is everyone is pricing manuals and artwork at something like 1/3 of the CIB price. That's ridiculous. We can still charge each other what we think a game itself is worth, but other things it's like come on let's work together here a little bit. We'll all fill out our collections more and everyone will be happier.

Anything that's more or less useless to me that I think someone else might need/enjoy I'm ten times more flexible on price and truthfully wouldn't mind getting rid of the stuff, as opposed to "I need to sell every last thing I find for max price."
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Snatch1414 wrote:Probably being an idealist here, but one thing I'm disappointed I don't see is communities like Racketboy, NA, etc. working together on prices a little more.

It IS good that usually you trade/buy/sell with people that are all on the same page: let's all save a few bucks compared to eBay and whatnot. On the other hand we still nickel and dime each other a little much on little things.

Take manuals and stuff. I am happy to sell you any manual I find for $1 or $2, maybe $4 or $5 if the game is fairly pricey (I'm talking $50 and above). Super rare games? Okay we're probably talking a decent amount. Thing is everyone is pricing manuals and artwork at something like 1/3 of the CIB price. That's ridiculous. We can still charge each other what we think a game itself is worth, but other things it's like come on let's work together here a little bit. We'll all fill out our collections more and everyone will be happier.

Anything that's more or less useless to me that I think someone else might need/enjoy I'm ten times more flexible on price and truthfully wouldn't mind getting rid of the stuff, as opposed to "I need to sell every last thing I find for max price."
I think you have a great point. But I think in order to retain strict, friendly pricing, the community needs to be more inclusive and tight knit, something that Racketboy doesn't strive to become. You see this mainly with the Neo Geo and PCE forums, where if you're not a contributing member, you're not really welcome to partake in the communities markets (of which typically offer extremely fair, below ebay pricing).

I actually enjoy the openness of RB, and find myself partaking more on these forums than the more focused forums. If people tried to sell for more fair prices on the forums without regulation, it'd be a battle against lurkers and people without any contributions to the community. I do think that veteran and active members could work together to give eachother better deals, though.

EDIT: not saying the prices here arn't fair. There are some very generous people here who are willing to help you out, hence why I pick up most of my games here now adays.
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