Game collecting is not what it once was

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yomomma1 wrote: A 400% increase in a loose copy of a game in 3 years is a bit dramatic, unless you disagree, of course.

Edit: Oh wow I can get a used copy of a game with a broken sticker, no case or manual for only HALF the cost of what a brand new copy used to cost, adjusted to inflation! I'm so privileged!
I disagree, yeah. Considering 93% haven't reached half of their original price, the 400% is only relative to your specific dates. From release to now, over 20 years, the vast majority of games, 93%, cost less THAN HALF what they did at release.

The cost of games, cart or complete, on the secondary market is supply and demand at it's most basic.
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mjmjr25 wrote:
yomomma1 wrote: A 400% increase in a loose copy of a game in 3 years is a bit dramatic, unless you disagree, of course.

Edit: Oh wow I can get a used copy of a game with a broken sticker, no case or manual for only HALF the cost of what a brand new copy used to cost, adjusted to inflation! I'm so privileged!
I disagree, yeah. Considering 93% haven't reached half of their original price, the 400% is only relative to your specific dates. From release to now, over 20 years, the vast majority of games, 93%, cost less THAN HALF what they normally cost.

This is supply and demand at it's most basic.

But.. once again its not half the original price, its not the same item, it is a used item, not new.

It's rather foolish to think that prices of items are COMPLETELY tied to what they were originally released for, many years later. If you wanted to make a good argument you would list the increasing amount of people, the limited supply, the hoarding of games for markups, etc etc.

Oh but hey, me actually giving figures for prices of items having hundreds of percents of price increases within the past years is not indicative of prices being significantly more than a few years ago right? Which is what I'm talking about, instead of you attempting to derail the conversation with irrelevant information.

I suggest you catalog every Snes(which you used in this case, completely unrelated to my examples) game that is new and sealed, and its sold price with an average of 10 sold to create a reliable datapoint, then you would have a good set of data.
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yomomma1 wrote: I suggest you catalog every Snes(which you used in this case, completely unrelated to my examples) game that is new and sealed, and its sold price with an average of 10 sold to create a reliable datapoint, then you would have a good set of data.
No.

I'll suggest people understand things are worth what people will pay for them.
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mjmjr25 wrote:
yomomma1 wrote: I suggest you catalog every Snes(which you used in this case, completely unrelated to my examples) game that is new and sealed, and its sold price with an average of 10 sold to create a reliable datapoint, then you would have a good set of data.
No.

I'll suggest people understand things are worth what people will pay for them.

So you bring up an argument, to something that you are agreeing with, while claiming to disagree with me, and then quote a statistic that has no proof?

If you notice all I said was the prices had increased, nothing else. If you had any problems understanding my initial comment, perhaps you could point out the sentence which led to the confusion, so this does not happen in the future.

If I had a suggestion for you, it would be to stop stuffing men with hay and setting them up in fields.
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yomomma1 wrote: So you bring up an argument, to something that you are agreeing with, while claiming to disagree with me, and then quote a statistic that has no proof?
The statistic with no "proof" is the number of SNES games selling for over $92 today, of which only 19 of 721 games are.
yomomma1 wrote: If you notice all I said was the prices had increased, nothing else. If you had any problems understanding my initial comment, perhaps you could point out the sentence which led to the confusion, so this does not happen in the future.
You forgot you complained that it was "ridiculous"...twice. Supply and demand is not ridiculous. Journey to Silius selling for $25 loose or $50 CIB is not "ridiculous". In today's money that is 40% of it's original price...CIB. Not a random game. A specific game you complained about price point on.
yomomma1 wrote: If I had a suggestion for you, it would be to stop stuffing men with hay and setting them up in fields.
Ugh.
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I still don't understand how someone's logic can be so immature. THE STATSTIC IS USELESS UNLESS YOU ARE COMPARING BRAND NEW SEALED GAMES. Do you understand now? If not I suggest reading it again, and then repeating if problems persist.

Ridiculous = price increase over a short amount of time, not the price itself, which you should be able to infer, but I apologize for not stressing that more. Your whole argument is flawed unless we are talking about the original conditions of games being sold in.

If I said Link to the Past is 200 dollars now, that's like double the price! Then it would be applicable here using your logic. But based on your reasoning you are just repeating blurbs someone else said, without requiring any thought on your end.
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mjmjr25 wrote:Ugh.
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mjmjr25 wrote:
mjmjr25 wrote:Ugh.
I see we are now derailing the conversation instead of continuing or leaving it, let me contribute.
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Exactly how much less should a cart only copy be than a CIB copy?

As for the price increase, I expect prices to continue to increase because the finite supply will keep dropping. You can remove every single reseller from the equation and the price is going to go up.
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MrPopo wrote:Exactly how much less should a cart only copy be than a CIB copy?

As for the price increase, I expect prices to continue to increase because the finite supply will keep dropping. You can remove every single reseller from the equation and the price is going to go up.
Probably twice for cib unless for some reason the game was usually sold without the box, came with multiple/special boxes, etc. Its seemed to have been that way for about 7 or so years since I've been following and everyone seems to follow it about.
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