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I used to refer to Zidane as "David Bowie monkey boy". FFIX has some of the most appalling character designs ever in the franchise.

I'll admit the first third of this game is actually pretty good. But then halfway through development, Sakaguchi left the project as lead producer. You can tell too, because right about there the game design starts to nose dive. The last third of FFIX is a befuddling mess of half baked ideas, bland areas, and impotent plot. (Not to mention the surprise WTF last boss.) Perhaps people were blinded by the nice graphics back then, but they should go back and replay this one. They might have a change of heart.
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This thread might not be the place for it, but I'd love to hear what a man of pristine taste such as yourself thinks of the other main games in the series sometime.

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nightrnr wrote:I had fun with Final Fantasy II (aka the black sheep of the series).
So really, I can't trust anyone's opinion on the series anymore :P .
You can trust Bone and me. We both enjoyed that game too.
dunpeal2064 wrote:This thread might not be the place for it, but I'd love to hear what a man of pristine taste such as yourself thinks of the other main games in the series sometime.
I'm not Exhuminator, but I will give you my thoughts on the series:

FF = Good!
FFII = Good!
FFII: Dawn of Souls = OK!
FFIII = Good!
FFIV = OK!
FFIV: The After Years = Haven't played it!
FFV = Great!
FFVI = Best!
FFVII = Good!
FFVIII = Good!
FFIX = OK!
FFX = Good!
FFX-2 = Haven't played it!
FFXI = Not going to play it!
FFXII = Haven't played it!
FFXII: Revenant Wings = Haven't played it!
FFXIII = Haven't played it!
FFXIII-2 = Haven't played it!
FFXIII: Lightning Returns = Haven't played it!
FFXIV = Not going to play it!

...keep going? OK...

Crisis Core FFVII = Haven't played it!
Dissidia 012 Duodecim FF = Haven't played it!
Dissidia FF = Haven't played it!
FF Adventure = Good!
FF: All the Bravest = Not going to play it!
FF Dimensions = Haven't played it!
FF Crystal Chronicles = Haven't played it!
FF Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers = Haven't played it!
FF Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time = Haven't played it!
FF Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King = Haven't played it!
FF Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Dark Lord = Haven't played it!
FF Crystal Chronicles: Rings of Fate = Haven't played it!
FF Fables: Chocobo Tales = Haven't played it!
FF Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon = Haven't played it!
FF: Four Heroes of Light = Haven't played it!
FF Legend = Haven't played it!
FF Legend II = Good!
FF Legend III = Haven't played it!
Ff Mystic Quest = OK!
FF Tactics = Haven't played it!
FF Tactics Advance = Haven't played it!
FF Tactics A2 = Haven't played it!
Dirge of Cerebus: FFVII = Haven't played it!
Theatrhythm FF = Great!
Theatrhythm: FF Curtan Call = Haven't played it yet!

...I hope that helps.
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Well Dunpeal, it's random gaming thoughts so anything goes right?

My decidedly hyperbolic experiences/opinions with the FF series...
Final Fantasy NES - Played this one many many years ago when it was first released. Eleven year old Exhuminator got his ass kicked by some kinda mindflayer looking wizard in a marsh cave, never played it again after that. Probably a good game though, I just wasn't up to snuff at that time. Also having played Phantasy Star on Master System first I wasn't all that impressed with this back then. Not saying it's a bad game mind.

Final Fantasy IV SNES - Played this one in middle school, and enjoyed it quite a bit. Made it to the Moon, but that was as far as I made it. Not because I sucked, but because the kid that let me borrow the game, he made me give it back before I beat it before he could. I want to replay this someday but I'm torn between the DS and PSP remakes?

Final Fantasy V SNES - Beat this one. Severely overrated and is not as good as IV. Starts out alright but loses steam over time and the plot somehow manages to get more and more bland as it goes. The final boss was boring and too hard. The revamped job system was OK I guess. I don't understand the love for this one when the game preceding and the game after are both clearly superior.

Final Fantasy VI SNES - God tier 2D greatness. Beats the bloody snot bubbles out of V. I bought this one release day after mowing many lawns to afford its initial release. The game cost me $75 new and who knows what that is today with inflation accounted for. I LOVED THIS GAME... it is amazing we all know that. My greatest gaming shame is that I have never beat it. Why? Because I was 80% of the way through it and some shitbag stole it from me. Yep. I have however watched someone else play through the end and have seen the epic ending. I'll replay this someday. Gotta pile drive that ghost train. Best OST in the series.

Final Fantasy VII PS1 - Beat this one. I played this many years after it was released and thus I wasn't enthralled by what would have been great aesthetics at the time. I greatly enjoyed the initial Midgar section of this game. It was tightly designed, well scripted, and the environment layouts felt purposeful. However, once I left Midgar, I started to not enjoy the game as much. I guess because it fell more into classic fantasy tropes after that. Midgar was all steampunk and metal and I preferred that over the organic and crystal rest of the game. VII is a pretty good game, mostly a fun time, but it marked the true beginning of the ridiculous melodramatics that plagued a few FF games afterwards. I did not care at all when Aerith died. From a historical aspect, I give this one credit for implementing FMV and polygons very well right off the bat.

Final Fantasy IX PS1 - Beat this one. Nice graphics, shit tier character designs. Long loading times and excruciatingly slow battle animations. Starts off pretty fun but as a I said earlier, once Sakaguchi left poor Ito couldn't keep this mess together and the game went to pot. I am baffled how anyone who has played great JRPGs can think this one is actually good. Unless they only played the first 35% of FFIX, then I guess it makes sense. Worst last boss in the series that I've experienced. :roll:

Final Fantasy X PS2 - Mixed feelings. Great graphics, pretty cool battle system. I made it about halfway but I quit in annoyance. My main issue is Titus is a terrible protagonist I could not relate to, coupled with the worst plot of any FF game I've played. I mean you're an underwater soccer jock from the future trying to stop his alcoholic dad who has become the ultimate evil from tidal waving the planet to death. (Yes I get that this was a metaphor but it's still retarded.) I also found the Bahamut temples incredibly tedious and overly simplistic. That said I might give this one another chance someday just 'cause some of the bosses are rad. It was a powerhouse starter game for the PS2 though, I give it that.

Final Fantasy XII PS2 - Beat this one. Holy mother of god and all things awesome did I love this game. Like, 109 hours of my life spent on it loved it. XII is radically different from all previous FF games and is the better game for it. The battle system is utter genius and people who say its boring never fought the truly hard bosses that require perfect strategy. Loved the massive sense of exploration and filling out all the maps. HUGE HUGE world filled with things to see and do. Astounding graphics and OST. Balthier and Fran are the best characters in the entire franchise. Oh how I wish wish wish I could have an HD remake of the International Version on Vita. FFXII is mana from gaming heaven. Your party should always consist of Balthier, Fran, and Ashe as god intended.

Final Fantasy: Crisis Core PSP - Beat this one. As a prequel to FFVII this game is pretty good. Yes the side quests are boring and suck. Stick to the main game though and you'll have a fun time. Really trippy battle system that's less luck driven then most people think. Excellent graphics, nice OST, a good sense of humor and as good a tear jerker ending in any game I've seen. (Seriously the ending is astounding and unexpected in its gravitas.) I enjoyed this one more than FFVII to be honest. Although it was cool to see how Cloud came to be who he was. Zack is the true boss though, a man's man in the modern androgynous muh feelin's ladyboy JRPG world.

And those are all the Final Fantasy games I've actually put real time into. If I didn't list a particular game in the series that simply means I haven't personally played it yet. Also I did not list spin offs such as Tactics or Mystic Quest and such. Just trying to focus on the mainline series here. (Though I beat Tactics on PS1 and it was amazing and awesome. If you don't love that one blame yourself or god...)
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Exhuminator wrote:Final Fantasy IX PS1 - Beat this one. Nice graphics, shit tier character designs. Long loading times and excruciatingly slow battle animations. Starts off pretty fun but as a I said earlier, once Sakaguchi left poor Ito couldn't keep this mess together and the game went to pot. I am baffled how anyone who has played great JRPGs can think this one is actually good. Unless they only played the first 35% of FFIX, then I guess it makes sense. Worst last boss in the series that I've experienced. :roll:
Ha, I love your comment about David Bowie Monkey Boy. Spot on! I think the reason I have fond memories about FFIX is that it was the first 3D Final Fantasy that wasn't trying to be about serious business. It injected fun and whimsy back into the series. You're right about the character designs being a bit shite, but once again it was also the first time a 3D Final Fantasy wasn't pimping character designs as being 2edgy4U. It felt like a proper adventure rather than a bunch of whiny emo babies bemoaning a world gone to hell. After VII and VIII it was just nice to have some lighter fare once again, rather than the usual lot of grimdark angsty teenagers with which we had slogged through the two previous games.

OTOH Vivi has one of my favorite side character stories in all of Final Fantasy, so I'm probably a bit biased. I also have never finished the game(!), though I would say I was about 75% of the way through before setting it aside. As you suggest I might be basing my opinion on the good graces of first 1/3 of the game.
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prfsnl_gmr wrote:
nightrnr wrote:I had fun with Final Fantasy II (aka the black sheep of the series).
So really, I can't trust anyone's opinion on the series anymore :P .
You can trust Bone and me. We both enjoyed that game too.
This explains so much :P
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I actually found ff9 to be quite charming, I really did enjoy it and have beaten it twice, the characters were likeable, not really a fan of the designs (such as quina and Freya) but I definitely would put it in my top 20 RPGs
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Exhuminator wrote:Image
I used to refer to Zidane as "David Bowie monkey boy".
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Are there any places online that still sell physical copies of PSO Blue Burst?
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