How about Apple making the 74 Billion last quarter?!

[Nemoide]

Ever since they stopped supporting the Apple II, THEY'VE BEEN DEAD TO ME.

[jp1]

It happens all the time around here, check out some of the other threads. We had like three pages about Mayo yesterday. Anyway, some of the people who are ribbing you are "Apple" people too.

You might find it helpful to make your posts in some of the established threads, people appreciate that. Not that a one off thread is a big deal, but this community seems to like things neat and tidy. So your thoughts on tiny houses for example could go in the political thread, and the Apple post might fit under "Random thoughts". No big deal, but it would help you in the future to catch less grief. Welcome to Racketboy.

[Ack]

It happens all the time around here, check out some of the other threads. We had like three pages about Mayo yesterday. Anyway, some of the people who are ribbing you are "Apple" people too.

You might find it helpful to make your posts in some of the established threads, people appreciate that. Not that a one off thread is a big deal, but this community seems to like things neat and tidy. So your thoughts on tiny houses for example could go in the political thread, and the Apple post might fit under "Random thoughts". No big deal, but it would help you in the future to catch less grief. Welcome to Thunderdome.

Fixed.

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[jp1]

[Omerta]

So if you buy/make a tiny house and you have any more than say... zero children, do you just make a make a tiny trailer park?

[fastbilly1]

So if you buy/make a tiny house and you have any more than say... zero children, do you just make a make a tiny trailer park?

Depends on county codes. At the end of the day, you are living in roughly the same amount of space as a 32ft camper.

I plan on using a 5th wheel camper as my guest house when I get my farm. Its a 2k investment for something that will be used a couple dozen times a year, but it opens up a room in the house.

[FerretGamer]

I could save the Vita with that kind of money!

[marurun]

I am gonna veer back on topic (sort of?), and perhaps divisively so, by saying I have a love/hate relationship with Apple. I really disliked Steve Jobs, for example. I was at the MacWorld Expo Tokyo (Chiba, really) in 1999 when he stormed off the stage because his 50 Mac QuickTime server streaming demo hiccupped instead of going off perfectly. He's such a polarizing figure.

I also don't like some of Apple's lock-in practices, but almost every technology provider does something along those lines, be it Microsoft (the king of lock-in), Google (pretends to be the champion of freedom but secretly loves lock-in), or whoever.

I do love Apple tech. Apple's devices are great examples of well-manufactured and well-put-together tech. I have the last B&W screen model iPod (3rd generation, 10+ years old, now) and it still runs, even though it only gets about 45 min of battery life off an all-day charge. The HD in it is still running and the device is solid as a rock, and the 20 gig HD is still larger than the amount of flash mem in my other devices. My iPod Touch 4G makes a great streaming jukebox for my iTunes library, NPR streams, and podcasts. I've had issues with iPhones, but my current one is working fine now that software issues have been sorted out. I even put a Lighting to Dock connector adapter through the washer and dryer and it still works, although the DAC in it is producing lower quality output as a result of its trip through the watery cyclone.

I've read several reviews that look closely at the DACs Apple puts in their various audio devices, and what they use is, in many cases, as good or better than the DACs in external headphone amplifiers, some costing several hundreds of dollars.

It does really bother me when people accuse people who buy Apple products of being sheep. I don't own a Mac, but I have several of the lower-priced idevices, and I made a conscious choice to buy them. I've used an Android phone and I returned it to the cell store within a couple days to swap it for an iPhone because I did not like it. It had all sorts of build quality/hardware issues and even though I thought the OS was fundamentally fine, I just thought it lacked polish, and I didn't like what Verizon was forcing on me (out of date Facebook and Amex apps I couldn't uninstall, that booted with the OS and remained memory resident even if I wasn't at all interested in using them, for example).

Apple really does provide the best, most controlled user interface for a smart phone. This is one case where controlling the experience works well, for the most part. I would hate to be trying to compete with Apple on UI elements. It would be a recipe for constant market failure.

Honestly, the biggest downside to Apple's massive iPhone-derived profit is that it puts too many eggs in one basket. Apple needs to boost their other product lines, because if the iPhone market becomes stale, it has the potential to sink the company. Thank goodness Apple keeps a mountain (almost literally) of cash in the bank as a cushion. That's the only reason Apple survived the 90s.

[Niode]

Agreed. I bought myself one of those 5k iMacs at xmas, I couldn't resist. It's just such a beautiful machine, plenty fast (I went with the i7 and 4GB GPU) and obscenely quiet. The main thing I like about the 5k iMac? There is no other product like it on the market right now. Nothing gets you the same bang for buck as a 5k screen with a pretty powerful machine inside it. It also helps that the screen is stunning, 4k video just looks amazing.

People who have been on here for a while already know I'm a bit of an Apple advocate. I just love their machines. Ignore the haters who call people like us sheep. It's just noise. You buy what you like and I totally get why some people would balk at the price but I don't see it as that expensive when you factor in the resale value. It's kinda like buying a Mercedes, a Toyota will get you there and back in pretty much the same manner and these days new cars come with all mod cons anyway but in 3 years time which car will have depreciated less? Same thing happens with Apple products, they just don't depreciate that much as long as you look after them. I sold my 4 year old iPhone 4 for £160 before the iPhone 6 came out. There's no way in hell you'd get even close to that for a 4 year old Samsung Galaxy. You'd be lucky to get £50 and they cost about £500 to buy brand new. Same thing applies to all mac hardware I spent about £600 on my PC 5 years ago, I'd be lucky to get £150 for it now. I sold a very heavily abused Macbook Pro (it saw me through 6 years of university) for £400. What other laptops offer that kind of resale value? Effectively meant that machine cost me £1000, a grand for a 2006 Macbook Pro isn't that expensive when you look at how much a similar specc'd machine would have gone for at the time.

[fastbilly1]

The issue with that Niode, is that many people do not buy hardware and ever get rid of it. I for example still have and use my gaming pc that I built for Half Life 2. Dont get me wrong Apple makes probably the best quality hardware on the market. Part of that is because it is a closed set of ecosystems so it does not have to support everything. But if everything you need to do is in that ecosystem, and you can afford it, why not buy the best? Personally, I skirt the worlds where Apple is mandatory. So I know how to use one, but I do not personally - hopeful new job would change that though.

I look at it this way: your telephone, your car, your computer, these are all tools. Tools are things man created to make life easier. Get the tool you know will get the job done how you need it done. Can you use a screwdriver as a hammer, yes, but it is not great at it.