NFL 2014 Thread

[DonSilvestre]

The best part of only having the lead for 71-seconds of regulation, is that every Packers fan at that game was still in the stands to see their defeat.

The funny thing is that the opposite is true for the vaunted "12th Man" as demonstrated by the photo above.

Or should I should say "The 12th men who just realized the Seahawks exist two year ago and are really loud which of course has nothing to do with the fact that their stadium is engineered to artificially enhance normal levels of crowd noise."

Or are they called the 12th man because that's how many fans they had prior to 2012?

I kid, I kid.

Wait, no I don't.

Between this game, the Fail Mary, and Richard Sherman/Pete Carroll's impossibly large egos, this is turning into a nice little rivalry. Can't wait til we beat your team's behind next year at Lambeau in the regular season...and then again in the playoffs.

[MrPopo]

What's really annoying is all the Hawks fans who are acting like they completely steamrolled Green Bay rather than pulling it out at the last second that was mostly helped by Green Bay not caring anymore. Now I have to put up with another week of fans being obnoxious.

[Stark]

The best part of only having the lead for 71-seconds of regulation, is that every Packers fan at that game was still in the stands to see their defeat.

The funny thing is that the opposite is true for the vaunted "12th Man" as demonstrated by the photo above.

That's what I was responding to, that photo. I don't care how much you're down by, why would you leave an NFC Championship game? Those don't happen in your building every day.

Just because the acoustics in the stadium are engineered to enhance noise levels doesn't mean that it isn't a real advantage.

Packers are a great team, but man they made some terrible mistakes at the end of that game. It doesn't matter if they win in Lambeau next year during the regular season, it won't avenge this loss.

[DonSilvestre]

The best part of only having the lead for 71-seconds of regulation, is that every Packers fan at that game was still in the stands to see their defeat.

The funny thing is that the opposite is true for the vaunted "12th Man" as demonstrated by the photo above.

That's what I was responding to, that photo. I don't care how much you're down by, why would you leave an NFC Championship game? Those don't happen in your building every day.

Just because the acoustics in the stadium are engineered to enhance noise levels doesn't mean that it isn't a real advantage.

Packers are a great team, but man they made some terrible mistakes at the end of that game. It doesn't matter if they win in Lambeau next year during the regular season, it won't avenge this loss.

Oh I agree it's a real advantage, but an artificially generated one. I won't get into that, it'll just make me sound like a whiney sore loser - but suffice to say I feel the same way about the Clink's acoustic design as I do about dome teams piping in extra noise - just shouldn't be allowed in my opinion. Anyway - onto legitimate NFL conversation. I have some interesting questions for you Seattle fans:

Your GM, John Schneider, has done a phenomenal job of building this young team. Drafting Wilson was brilliant in the 3rd round (Being from Wisconsin, I was screaming at the Packers to take him to be their backup). But it's time for folks to get paid, and back to back Super Bowls will drive the price of most of your players through the roof. Where do you see this team being in 2-3 years once Wilson is no longer a bargain, the rest of the Legion of Boom demands top tier money, and Lynch is gone? I feel like Seattle has one more run in them next year before this empire starts to crumble quickly.

My personal opinions are (and I think the Packer game showed this) that Wilson's success thus far has almost entirely been on Lynch's back. I believe in Wilson (I think his passes in the the last 5 minutes and overtime proved he's legit), but how good is he really? He has no legit wide receivers, and Lynch has been SO good that I think it's just really hard to tell. He'll be the highest paid QB in the league next year, and I personally think he's the 9th or 10th best QB right now. Where do you Seattle (and other NFL team) fans stand on this? Am I insane?

[Luke]

Am I insane?

Depends. How much are you willing to bet on the Seahawk's winning the SB?

[stickem]

I think wilson has benefited from lynch and a good defense. Lynch will be gone next season though. I'd probably put him around 10th also.

[DonSilvestre]

Am I insane?

Depends. How much are you willing to bet on the Seahawk's winning the SB?

I think the Packers used a blueprint developed by the Chargers earlier this year to shut down Seattle. Because Belichick is a genius (as much as I hate him and Tom Brady), and because the New England defense is very good, and because the game is on a neutral field, I am picking New England to win by a touchdown.

But a Seattle blowout wouldn't shock me either.

[Stark]

My personal opinions are (and I think the Packer game showed this) that Wilson's success thus far has almost entirely been on Lynch's back. I believe in Wilson (I think his passes in the the last 5 minutes and overtime proved he's legit), but how good is he really? He has no legit wide receivers, and Lynch has been SO good that I think it's just really hard to tell. He'll be the highest paid QB in the league next year, and I personally think he's the 9th or 10th best QB right now. Where do you Seattle (and other NFL team) fans stand on this? Am I insane?

Yes, I think you are insane. Lynch is amazing yes and we'll really feel it when he leaves, but he was a non-factor during the Carolina game and Wilson was amazing. Wilson is so non-standard when it comes to the traditional QB that I think you have to watch every game to see how amazing he is.

You want "play is breaking down, scramble but always look down field for the open man"? He's got that in spades:

You want "blitz is coming, stand in the pocket, beat them over the top?" Got that too, with the touchdown throw to Luke Willson in the Cardinals game and the touchdown throw to Kearse.
You want "make your defense look bad with the read option and his ability?" you have the insane juke and run he has against the Cards:


I have no trouble saying that during Championship week you were seeing 4 of the best QBs in the game right now.

[Jmustang1968]

No way can Wilson even sniff the top 4.

[Stark]

No way can Wilson even sniff the top 4.

Wilson, 8-0 against Superbowl winning QBs, 5-0 in OT. Record 42-13 in his first 3 years.

I'm a homer though. So not an unbiased source.