The PS4 thread

[RCBH928]

maybe its those bright flash lights on the controller

[Xeogred]

I haven't run out of battery during a game session on my PS4 yet but it definitely drops down to one bar almost every time I play it and I always have to remember to go plug it in after I play. I really don't know why the battery is so bad. I swear the Wii U gamepad in a lot of instances lasts longer and that has a fairly large screen built in it on top of rumble, gyros, microphone, and speakers.

Probably.

The Wii U Pro controller on the other hand probably lasts 80x longer than the PS4 controller.

It's scary how good that one is.

[ninjainspandex]

Picked up the PS4 version of the Tomb Raider reboot a couple of days ago. It was on special for Christmas at EB Games (a chain here owned by GameStop) for $47 I'm enjoying it quite a bit so far.

That game was $20 at Gamestop and I think a bunch of other places like Amazon for black friday, I almost bought it but I beat the X360 version when it came out so I think I'll wait until it's $10 or less.

[Reprise]

I haven't run out of battery during a game session on my PS4 yet but it definitely drops down to one bar almost every time I play it and I always have to remember to go plug it in after I play. I really don't know why the battery is so bad. I swear the Wii U gamepad in a lot of instances lasts longer and that has a fairly large screen built in it on top of rumble, gyros, microphone, and speakers.

Exactly what I experience! And it's funny you mention the Wii U gamepad, because I think the same. It's kind of funny when the Wii U came out, the Gamepad's weak battery life caused quite a large backlash and criticism from the internet, yet the PS4's Dualshock 4 seemed to escape such large criticism, especially since they patched in the ability to turn down the lightbar, awarding me, like, an amazing 20 minutes of extra battery life.

[Xeogred]

Playstation Turns 20!

Retro themed PS4, dang I want one.

[Flake]

Playstation Turns 20!

Retro themed PS4, dang I want one.

It's not lost on me that Sony is making a PSX themed PS4 that can't play PSX games because reasons.

[dsheinem]

because reasons.

Rumors suggest that they are apparently working on it, so I remain hopeful: http://venturebeat.com/community/2014/0 ... -so-crazy/

[Flake]

The absence of PSX compatibility after 2 platform iterations (4 if you count PSP and Vita) where its inclusion was a given combined with Sony's monetization of Backwards Compatibility via Playstation Now leaves me skeptical.

[dsheinem]

The absence of PSX compatibility after 2 platform iterations (4 if you count PSP and Vita) where its inclusion was a given combined with Sony's monetization of Backwards Compatibility via Playstation Now leaves me skeptical.

I think there's a couple of things going on here.

One, the architecture of the hardware between the PS4 and their previous machines is significantly different, and I think that getting emulation to work properly takes time and would have delayed the system's launch so they didn't want to worry about it off the bat.

Two, as you point out, is that they are trying to see how PS Now works out. However, as that link I posted indicated:

Why do all this instead of streaming a game? Eurogamer’s report suggests letting users simply download PS1 and PS2 games could put much less stress on their servers than streaming them repeatedly. A PS1 game is usually less than a gigabyte in size, and most PS2 games are only a few gigs. Using PS Now for those games really only makes sense for less powerful devices like the PlayStation TV or Sony Bravia TVs, which can stream games.

And of course, there’s the question of why Sony would let people buy and run old discs instead of buying the games again. Well, for the most, part the market for used PS1 and PS2 games is a tiny one today — that’s not much of a threat to the market for new games. GameStop has already begun to phase out used PS2 games, and they definitely aren’t common anymore outside eBay, Amazon, and the odd retro game store. Even where these places do exist, Sony has already shown the capability to price its digital classics competitively. Final Fantasy VII became one of the top-selling games on PSN despite the PS3 being able to run the original PS1 disc, most likely because those discs can cost as much as $70 these days as opposed to the $10 for the PSN version. For PS2 Classics, Sony has focused specifically on rare games that are expensive at retail, releasing digital versions for a quarter of the price or less. And how many PS4 owners still have a PS1 and PS2 games lying around? Not many, I imagine. It doesn’t make sense to lock out that minority of players who might actually buy a PS4 if they find out they can run their PS2 discs on it.

So, again, I feel there's good reason to be hopeful.

(Sorry if this post comes off as trying to close down discussion or anything...just trying to explain why I am hopeful...you've made me nervous to engage you now )

[BoneSnapDeez]

Playstation Turns 20!

Retro themed PS4, dang I want one.

Kinda disappointed in that honestly.

Unless I'm missing something, it just looks like a grey PS4. Can't think of many people who would glance at that and instantly associate it with the PS1.

Contrast it to something like the NES-themed GBA SP.