If I remember correctly in Sweden some cases of sexual harassement are considered rape, so probably pretty strict stuff.Forlorn Drifter wrote: One thing, a couple of weeks ago, I believe, was Sweden considering putting special labels on sexist video games. Which, I don't see a problem with. But I do wonder who gets to decide whether or not its sexist. There's a lot of disagreement on what is and isn't depending on who you ask, so that could potentially create more problems than it already has. But it probably won't.
Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
- ZeroAX
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 7469
- Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:20 am
- Location: Current: Amsterdam. From Greece
- Contact:
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
BoneSnapDeez wrote:The success of a console is determined by how much I enjoy it.
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
re: labeling "sexist" video games
Yay, thought police.
Yay, thought police.
- Erik_Twice
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 6251
- Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:22 am
- Location: Madrid, Spain
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
It seems to lead to developers being judged by a non-elected, non-industry, politically homogenous group that decides what the moral value of someone's else ideas acording to their standards and flawed understanding of art.Forlorn Drifter wrote:I believe, was Sweden considering putting special labels on sexist video games. Which, I don't see a problem with. But I do wonder who gets to decide whether or not its sexist. There's a lot of disagreement on what is and isn't depending on who you ask, so that could potentially create more problems than it already has. But it probably won't.
At least the uneccessary rating systems already in place are self-regulated and I'm not exactly a fan of those.
Of course, chances are it won't ever be put into practice or that we are gravely misinformed about it.
EDIT: I just realized the incredibly irony of what I just said. I think I'll sit out of this conversation.
Looking for a cool game? Find it in my blog!
Latest post: Often, games must be difficult
http://eriktwice.com/
Latest post: Often, games must be difficult
http://eriktwice.com/
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/1/731507 ... s-argument
So we're seeing the general "death threats on the internet" thing making its way to the highest court in the land. It'll be interesting to see how things end up getting ruled. I wouldn't be shocked to see it end up like the definition of obscenity.
So we're seeing the general "death threats on the internet" thing making its way to the highest court in the land. It'll be interesting to see how things end up getting ruled. I wouldn't be shocked to see it end up like the definition of obscenity.
Blizzard Entertainment Software Developer - All comments and views are my own and not representative of the company.
-
Forlorn Drifter
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 5166
- Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:02 pm
- Location: Central Texas
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
I'm scared to know where it could go just based on how many kids get on the internet and say stupid things. All my time on the internet, death threats and horrible levels of hatred were thrown around since I started using it, and were before. Being a little kid seeing it, you might just think that's how it works and follow suit. I'm not against the idea at all, I'm just questioning implementation and how they consider everything. And being that it is the internet, it can get into international laws. If an United States citizen was to make a threat online to someone in a different part of the world, it would most likely be dealt with. But what if someone was receiving threats from a country that does not have laws that deal with threats over the internet? How is it dealt with then?
There's also a new Feminist Frequency video up with various men from the gaming industry stating various "privileges" of being a male gamer compared to a female one. (The title states "white male", but uses non-white males in the video, which seemed poorly thought out to me considering it didn't touch on any racial issues.) It has good points, but I feel it could be applied to many other mediums or hobbies outside videogames, or various other "nerdy" hobbies. Not to say any of the points are less important because of that. I think the problem is just too wide to be a focus on the video game industry, or the like. Its a general problem in society, and a big one.
There's also a new Feminist Frequency video up with various men from the gaming industry stating various "privileges" of being a male gamer compared to a female one. (The title states "white male", but uses non-white males in the video, which seemed poorly thought out to me considering it didn't touch on any racial issues.) It has good points, but I feel it could be applied to many other mediums or hobbies outside videogames, or various other "nerdy" hobbies. Not to say any of the points are less important because of that. I think the problem is just too wide to be a focus on the video game industry, or the like. Its a general problem in society, and a big one.
PSN: Green-Whiskeyninjainspandex wrote:Maybe I'm just a pervert
Owned Consoles: GameCube, N64, PS3, PS4, GBASP
- prfsnl_gmr
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 12410
- Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:26 pm
- Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
I think that is where it is heading, and I don't see the court makeing any hard-and-fast rules on this very difficult topic.MrPopo wrote:http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/1/731507 ... s-argument
So we're seeing the general "death threats on the internet" thing making its way to the highest court in the land. It'll be interesting to see how things end up getting ruled. I wouldn't be shocked to see it end up like the definition of obscenity.
- ZeroAX
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 7469
- Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:20 am
- Location: Current: Amsterdam. From Greece
- Contact:
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014- ... -australia
Yay, truly women made a huge leap for equal rights today
Yay, truly women made a huge leap for equal rights today
BoneSnapDeez wrote:The success of a console is determined by how much I enjoy it.
- BoneSnapDeez
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 20148
- Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 1:08 pm
- Location: Maine
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
I'm not in agreement but it's within the rights of private businesses to make decisions such as this. Consumers will be able to get it elsewhere. Most retailers already refuse to stock games with adult ratings.
- Erik_Twice
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 6251
- Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:22 am
- Location: Madrid, Spain
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
It's within their rights, but it's still an awful thing to do.BoneSnapDeez wrote:I'm not in agreement but it's within the rights of private businesses to make decisions such as this. Consumers will be able to get it elsewhere. Most retailers already refuse to stock games with adult ratings.
Looking for a cool game? Find it in my blog!
Latest post: Often, games must be difficult
http://eriktwice.com/
Latest post: Often, games must be difficult
http://eriktwice.com/
Re: Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"
It depends. Australia and New Zealand's governments have been more than heavy-handed in their attitudes towards video games. Possession of a copy of Manhunt is a misdemeanor in New Zealand, punishable by a $2,000 fine.BoneSnapDeez wrote:I'm not in agreement but it's within the rights of private businesses to make decisions such as this. Consumers will be able to get it elsewhere. Most retailers already refuse to stock games with adult ratings.
