Want to Buy PAL TV

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Re: Want to Buy PAL TV

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When I try to play pal games on my N64 Everdrive the picture just rotates really fast vertically, does that mean my crt can't support PAL or is it the fact I'm using a NTSC console?
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ninjainspandex wrote:When I try to play pal games on my N64 Everdrive the picture just rotates really fast vertically, does that mean my crt can't support PAL or is it the fact I'm using a NTSC console?
Both. As far as I understand N64 has games set refresh rate, and the console set color encoding.

That would mean PAL games on NTSC N64 results in non-standard video: NTSC color at 50hz.
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skate323k137 wrote:And trust me, lines won't be "missing." The TVL (Television Lines) spec is very confusing.

What it means is how many vertical lines, alternating black/white, it can display in a horizontal space equal to the height of the monitor. What this means for 4:3 displays is that it can actually display more than 400 vertical lines across the width of the monitor, since the width is greater than the height.
Thanks for that information; I may look into getting a PVM instead.
I would like to ask a related question though: Will a PVM accept direct composite or component RGB input if I use RCA to BNC adaptors or will I need anything extra?

EDIT: Also, I would like to know if SCART can be wired directly to a PVM, or if an itermediary device would be necessary.
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Composite or component to BNC should work.
As I understand PVMs often have shared component and RGB inputs. Inconvenient if wanting to connect both types of device.

SCART to BNC results vary. You may need raw sync cables or similar, some models don't like using composite video to sync RGB.
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Most PVMs support "real" RGB, only some support component video. Component video is not RGB despite the cables being red, green, and blue.

Ideal models are ones like the PVM 20M2MDU which accepts both RGB and Component, and has 2 sets of RGB/Component inputs, signal type is selectable in the on screen menus. A few (dirt cheap) RCA to BNC adaptors are all that's needed for component video. Generally a scart to BNC cable is needed for RGB. The medical versions of the PVMs usually don't require external sync strippers. They can handle composite video as sync, which is what SCART TVs use. Older PVMs require a sync separator if the cable you're using is not providing composite sync instead of composite video.
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