No wonder you guys (Americans) are at each other's throats

[ZeroAX]

Interesting infographic



No wonder you guys are at each other's throats since you don't seem to trust the media that supports the other side. Since your beliefs, ideas and understanding of the world is influenced so much by the images that reach you, I can imagine that there's a lot of "living in a bubble" when it comes to where people get their informaiton from.

3 interesting points:

1) Funny that 2 British institutions/media are the most trusted by the Americans. Regret that revolution yet? . Though to be honest, from stuff I see them cover in Europe, they are the most neutral and "facts above speculation" publications I've seen.

2) Liberals seem to be much more accepting of a multitude of information sources, while conservatives seem to prefer living in their information bubble (seriously, trusting only 8-12/36 media?)

3) Fox News getting even 1 "purrple" grading makes me sad.

[Flake]

To be fair, it's like this everywhere. We're not exactly awash in news of prosperity and camaraderie from Athens, right? Confirmation Bias is a human failing and everyone in the developed world enjoys more choice in how they get their news and media than ever before - and what better source than one that already agrees with you!

[ZeroAX]

To be fair, it's like this everywhere. We're not exactly awash in news of prosperity and camaraderie from Athens, right? Confirmation Bias is a human failing and everyone in the developed world enjoys more choice in how they get their news and media than ever before -

It's beyond sad when you compare yourselves to Greece xD.
Not to mention ALL media are mistrusted equally here.

and what better source than one that already agrees with you!

Well....yeah, but that's hardly going to make anyone into a productive citizen when it comes to questions about the future of one's country, will it?

[Ack]

3 interesting points:

1) Funny that 2 British institutions/media are the most trusted by the Americans. Regret that revolution yet? . Though to be honest, from stuff I see them cover in Europe, they are the most neutral and "facts above speculation" publications I've seen.

No, the British news is just as biased(or moreso, according to Adam), but we trust it for its international reporting. Most of our news services don't tend to focus as heavily on the international aspects.

2) Liberals seem to be much more accepting of a multitude of information sources, while conservatives seem to prefer living in their information bubble (seriously, trusting only 8-12/36 media?)

This is also a point of debate among conservatives. The argument concerns the education of journalists and claims they tend to naturally lean liberal due to having received degrees from generally liberal universities, which colors their reporting. It ties back into perceptions of liberal bias within higher education, which has been a growing major complaint for the last 40-50 years, basically as a repercussion to what was happening with the various civil rights movements.

3) Fox News getting even 1 "purrple" grading makes me sad.

And yet MSNBC gets a free pass? Both of those networks have a few decent points, but both are also full of dribble.

What I find most interesting is how widely trusted The Wall Street Journal is and how much we all despise Buzzfeed.

Also for the record, my favorite news source isn't listed.

[ZeroAX]

No, the British news is just as biased(or moreso, according to Adam), but we trust it for its international reporting. Most of our news services don't tend to focus as heavily on the international aspects.

With no offense to Adam, he is too emotional of the subject of Scotland (cause of his problems with his wife's visa). All they did was present the arguments for pro and against, and well the economic arguments did support the Union (though you can't "report" on how future central governments will mismanage the economy, which was the Yes campaigns main argument).

And read this last paragraph:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_ ... ed_Kingdom

I can't imagine that happening in any Greek or American news channel, especially a public one.

This is also a point of debate among conservatives. The argument concerns the education of journalists and claims they tend to naturally lean liberal due to having received degrees from generally liberal universities, which colors their reporting. It ties back into perceptions of liberal bias within higher education, which has been a growing major complaint for the last 40-50 years, basically as a repercussion to what was happening with the various civil rights movements.

Yeah this is pretty ugly because it just smells of backlash due to inferiority complex.

And yet MSNBC gets a free pass? Both of those networks have a few decent points, but both are also full of dribble.

It doesn't get made fun of in Europe, so I don't know about it, but since you are moderate and I trust your opinion I'm guessing it's also a party propaganda network but for the Democrats.

Also for the record, my favorite news source isn't listed.

Racketboy?

[prfsnl_gmr]

Also for the record, my favorite news source isn't listed.

To be fair, not that many people read the "When Does Global Warming Actually Show Up In Real Life" thread here on Racketboy...

[Ack]

Haha, actually I enjoy reading The Diplomat. It focuses on the policies and foreign relations of nations in the Asia-Pacific region: http://thediplomat.com/

There's a wide variety of nations covered, news reporters with various angles, interviews with a large array of individuals, speculation and debates on the ongoing power struggle within the region, reports on military exchanges and training, and so on. And the comment section can be pretty fascinating...when it's not dominated solely by the pro-China crowd.

No, the British news is just as biased(or moreso, according to Adam), but we trust it for its international reporting. Most of our news services don't tend to focus as heavily on the international aspects.

With no offense to Adam, he is too emotional of the subject of Scotland (cause of his problems with his wife's visa). All they did was present the arguments for pro and against, and well the economic arguments did support the Union (though you can't "report" on how future central governments will mismanage the economy, which was the Yes campaigns main argument).

And read this last paragraph:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_ ... ed_Kingdom

I can't imagine that happening in any Greek or American news channel, especially a public one.

No, we definitely tend toward a pro-American bias with certain networks and an anti-American bias with others. Again, it depends heavily on the general slant of the reporting, the actors involved, and so forth.

This is also a point of debate among conservatives. The argument concerns the education of journalists and claims they tend to naturally lean liberal due to having received degrees from generally liberal universities, which colors their reporting. It ties back into perceptions of liberal bias within higher education, which has been a growing major complaint for the last 40-50 years, basically as a repercussion to what was happening with the various civil rights movements.

Yeah this is pretty ugly because it just smells of backlash due to inferiority complex.

Potentially, or it could be a retaliation for a feeling of exclusion as liberal elements have slowly pushed out conservative ones. Either way, having a large political body that controls academia versus a large political body that takes a Luddite view towards academia is a dangerous situation.

And yet MSNBC gets a free pass? Both of those networks have a few decent points, but both are also full of dribble.

It doesn't get made fun of in Europe, so I don't know about it, but since you are moderate and I trust your opinion I'm guessing it's also a party propaganda network but for the Democrats.

Effectively yes, MSNBC is considered the Democrat propaganda channel, just as Fox is the Republican one.

And I haven't been called moderate in a long time, haha! But I imagine political angles as a three-dimensional figure as opposed to the horizontal line most people get put on here or the graph that the Libertarians favor.

[MrPopo]

This is also a point of debate among conservatives. The argument concerns the education of journalists and claims they tend to naturally lean liberal due to having received degrees from generally liberal universities, which colors their reporting. It ties back into perceptions of liberal bias within higher education, which has been a growing major complaint for the last 40-50 years, basically as a repercussion to what was happening with the various civil rights movements.

Yeah this is pretty ugly because it just smells of backlash due to inferiority complex.

Potentially, or it could be a retaliation for a feeling of exclusion as liberal elements have slowly pushed out conservative ones. Either way, having a large political body that controls academia versus a large political body that takes a Luddite view towards academia is a dangerous situation.

Indeed. I had a professor in high school who would say "I used to be a Republican, then I went to college and got an education." And my college's campus newspaper once had a story on a conservative rally, and the people they interviewed were talking about how they felt oppressed by the liberals.

[dsheinem]

Indeed. I had a professor in high school who would say "I used to be a Republican, then I went to college and got an education." And my college's campus newspaper once had a story on a conservative rally, and the people they interviewed were talking about how they felt oppressed by the liberals.

There's a lot of good research that pretty definitively links the amount (and quality) of education one receives to their political leanings (more/better education = more progressive political views). From what I recall, some of that research isn't strictly about college education, either...there's a "liberal bias" in all education, to the extent that education is invested in the new and the future much more than it is in the old and the past. The more you get exposed to new ideas and other ways of thinking, the less likely you will find conservative politics endearing.

[prfsnl_gmr]

Indeed. I had a professor in high school who would say "I used to be a Republican, then I went to college and got an education." And my college's campus newspaper once had a story on a conservative rally, and the people they interviewed were talking about how they felt oppressed by the liberals.

There's a lot of good research that pretty definitively links the amount (and quality) of education one receives to their political leanings (more/better education = more progressive political views). From what I recall, some of that research isn't strictly about college education, either...there's a "liberal bias" in all education, to the extent that education is invested in the new and the future much more than it is in the old and the past. The more you get exposed to new ideas and other ways of thinking, the less likely you will find conservative politics endearing.

Clearly, DSH, people that go off to fancy-pants, east-coast liberal arts colleges are brainwashed. If you want to meet people with some serious critical thinking skills, talk to some dropouts with a proper talk radio education.