Does your state require a photo ID to vote? Don't vote!

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jvalentine98 wrote:
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jvalentine98 wrote:Elections coming up in November. Apparently Alabama is requiring a government issued photo ID to vote. Last I checked a state ID or driver's license is not free. Therefore, they are essentially requiring the purchase of something in order to vote.

I understand my constitutional rights to be that if I am a citizen (and not a felon), I can vote. No charge for choosing my leaders. But, that's not the case in my state.

I do plan on going to the polling location, stating my name and letting them check me off the registered voter list, and when asked for my ID I will refuse and let them know I think it is illegal for them to require it. Then simply leave. Money spent should not be a requirement to vote.
I will also go to a different polling station in Alabama and claim to be you. Only I have an old spare Alabama ID to show. Once inside, I will make you vote for Ralph Nader.
Well, there is not a law that requires you to even HAVE an Id. You don't have to prove who you are if haven't done anything wrong, Alabama is not a stop and Id state. You can simply go through life without one if you choose. But this is a step in the wrong direction
Perhaps. I'm just giving you a hard time, as you have a tendency to just start rants about things that you disagree with without considering the reasons why such laws, regulations, or attitudes have come about. prfsnl_gmr's post is the most informative on the topic, even if there are some differences distinguishing Wisconsin and Indiana from Alabama(not enough to change the general gist of the information though).

The cost of acquiring an ID is the biggest issue involved in Voter ID laws, particularly considering the people who would be more likely to be kept from voting typically lean towards a single party, the Democrats, and are often minorities(hence the complaints of racism regarding Voter ID). The type of voter fraud this law prevents is generally rare when compared to other methods of electoral fraud. And while I advocate finding ways to deter any and all voter fraud, Voter ID comes with the possibility of disenfranchising more people than it will stop from committing such fraud.

For the record, the dissent prfsnl_gmr posted is a fast read and contains other court documents. The section in question is probably only 20 pages long.
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jp1 wrote:
prfsnl_gmr wrote:On a related note, the incredibly intelligent Judge Richard Posner wrote a dissent regarding voter ID laws. You can read it here, and I recommend it to anyone with even a passing interest in this issue.
43 page pdf for someone with a passing interest? Gosh, tl;dr much?

J/K, except I didn't read that shit because it was way too long.
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Perhaps, I should have written "skim"...
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Sorry dudes, but if you can't scratch together enough coin for a photo id, I don't want you deciding the future of our country. Panhandlers can make enough for several picture id cards daily.

Also, I'm not taking this seriously at all in case anyone didn't catch that.
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prfsnl_gmr wrote:
jp1 wrote:
prfsnl_gmr wrote:On a related note, the incredibly intelligent Judge Richard Posner wrote a dissent regarding voter ID laws. You can read it here, and I recommend it to anyone with even a passing interest in this issue.
43 page pdf for someone with a passing interest? Gosh, tl;dr much?

J/K, except I didn't read that shit because it was way too long.
:lol:

Perhaps, I should have written "skim"...
Now, "skim" I did... :D

EDIT: OP, no offense...your topics at least wrangle up some fun comments. I find you funny, although I'm sure you're being entirely serious. Please tell me you are a stoner. If you are a stoner, you may be one of my favorite people.

I'm not saying you smoke weed. I'm just saying...

"It'd be a whole lot cooler if you did." :mrgreen:

Don't do drugs if you don't already though, please.
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Let me repeat myself, Wisconsin was providing FREE IDs for anyone who needed one. FREE! F R E E.
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I encourage any and all measure to encourage people to not vote. Do a real hard assessment of yourself; do you really feel qualified to make ANY of the decisions you vote on?
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ninjainspandex wrote:Let me repeat myself, Wisconsin was providing FREE IDs for anyone who needed one. FREE! F R E E.
Do you know how much it will cost me to go to Wisconsin for an ID? For pete's sake, be practical guy.
MrPopo wrote:I encourage any and all measure to encourage people to not vote. Do a real hard assessment of yourself; do you really feel qualified to make ANY of the decisions you vote on?
Well, I'm too lazy to read that boring 43 page document. However, I did manage to procure a photo id, and mine even affords me the luxury of operating a motor vehicle...so I'd say I'm fairly qualified.
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i encourage OP to smoke weed.
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aaron wrote:i encourage OP to smoke weed.
NO! OP, if you don't smoke weed, DO NOT SMOKE WEED! Besides, that shit costs money, and it grows right from the dirt. Psshhh, stepping on our right to smoke sweet herbs by charging cash for it...amiright?

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MrPopo wrote:I encourage any and all measure to encourage people to not vote. Do a real hard assessment of yourself; do you really feel qualified to make ANY of the decisions you vote on?
FYI I watch the Colbert Report, I'm very well informed
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