Gypsy Split

[Sload Soap]

It's hard for people not to play the Nazi card when you're actually referring to Gypsies as a "problem group" and calling for their deportation.

[ZeroAX]

I love how you complain about: your country being "oppressed" by the bigger country in the union, your wife being mistreated by "the system" which is being unfair and how you were talking during the Scotland referendum about you wanting an independent Scotland to be a more fair country, but from what I saw your definition of "fairness" is the same as the one of many of my fellow countrymen (or I guess populists everywhere). You just want stuff for you and you dislike everything different. I'm honestly disappointed and sad.

[dsheinem]

You don't qualify to reside in the United Kingdom because your British husband has insufficient evidence to prove his connection to the United Kingdom" - because I don't have a well-paid job nor a fat bank account.

Do you not have a birth certificate?

[dsheinem]

Do you not have a birth certificate?

The Home Office only looks at financial requirements as a way to accept or reject applications at the moment. However, if I were born outside Britain but within the EU, then my wife would get an exemption and we could live in the country no problem.

Wait, what? Where and when were you born? Were your parents British?

Do you not have a British-based bank account?

How do you have a British passport if you aren't already recognized as a British citizen?

Or is none of that the problem...I was looking at this - http://www.workpermit.com/uk/marriage.htm... does this address your situation? Are the problems stemming from the fact that you haven't checked off a box or two here yet?

[dsheinem]

I was born in England in 1987. My mother was born in Scotland, my father in England. We are all British citizens.

I have a British bank account, but I don't have £100,000 to support my wife's visa application (if you don't have a well-paid job, you could get around that with 100k).

We've met all the requirements of a legal marriage and we don't have criminal records. My wife can speak fluent English and is a qualified translator, interpreter and teacher.

1. Only those earning more than £18,600 to be able to bring their spouses to share their lives in the UK. This figure would rise significantly in cases where visa applications are also made for children. This would mean for example that in order to secure visas for a spouse and two children you could need an income of up to £24,800.
2. A probationary period of five years.
3. A requirement to make couples prove a greater attachment to the UK than they have to any other country.
4. EU citizens sponsoring non-EEA spouses are exempt of the above requirements.

We fail on the financial requirements and the fact that I've worked and lived in China for 5 years. The government have a right to say that our attachment is stronger to China than that of the UK.

Ok, so again just trying to understand - I see this suggests there's a 10 year route https://www.gov.uk/settle-in-the-uk/y/y ... isa/tier-1 in which financial requirements are not needed. It says you can apply for that in 2017 (I suppose because of a backlog)...and that there are ways of getting short term extensions in the period between now and then, which I assume means meeting the financial requirements.

While I don't know how they set a number for income, I can somewhat understand the need to do so in order to avoid the potential of people flooding in and taking advantage of state benefits. Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_ ... ed_Kingdom it does seem that they've set it at slightly below the national mean but well above the mean for a single male in your age range.

It does suck, and I hope you find a tenable solution.

But, back on point, why would these same laws not work against other immigrants as well? I mean, you are railing against Roma Gypsys in this thread - but aren't they subject to the same exact laws? Looking at https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-c ... -can-apply tells me all immigrants need to have "been granted indefinite leave to stay in the UK" which has those same income requirements...

[dsheinem]

On the Roma point first. EU citizens do not require British citizenship to be able to gain access to welfare, the job market and residency rights. Effectively, there's no point in trying to gain a British passport if you can get all of those rights anyway in the first place. EU citizens get the automatic right to indefinite leave to remain.

Hmm, ok that makes sense I guess. Is there another EU country where your wife could very easily get citizenship (as an individual) and then be granted the British citizenship as your spouse accordingly?

EDIT: this article seems a good summation of the fucked up shit you are dealing with - https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdo ... and-hearts

[Nyukki]

Why on earth would you want to move back to the dreary sh*thole that is the UK? Get on a plane back to the Jing, dude!

Have you been married 5 years too? If so, you can get a 10 year residence visa with entitlement to work here. I'm getting mine next year. Whoop!


Edit: Whoops, sorry, just read the above post more carefully, that's some crazy drama, sorry to hear that. The doctors here can be a bit brash. Glad to hear the baby's still good. All the best dude.

[TSTR]

Has THINNER been mentioned in this thread yet?

[dsheinem]

Edit: Whoops, sorry, just read the above post more carefully, that's some crazy drama, sorry to hear that. The doctors here can be a bit brash. Glad to hear the baby's still good. All the best dude.

Adam, given the medical stuff, might your wife qualify for some kind of humanitarian-based immigration status. I mean, it sounds like she's being taking refuge in the UK to avoid some pretty horrible medical conditions...

[ZeroAX]

I'm sorry to hear that mate . But you have to realize that hating on other groups of people just makes your problem worse. It's not the roma, or the Polish/Bulgarian/whatever immigrant's fault. I can bring up some amazingly good examples from history why this is just scapegoating, but honestly I don't want to antagonize you.

You are a good guy (we're born the same year btw and I feel really sad for what is happening to you. But it is through and through the fault of your politicians. They do not do their job well enough to create enough low/mid skill jobs to support the entire population, and then in order to get re-elected they use immigrants as a scapegoats.

As a person from a country where bad politicians (well...and the people who voted them, but I was never one of them so) destroyed it, please I give you this advice from the bottom of my heart: don't aim your anger at the poor roma. No matter how "badly" they behave, these people are actually in a worse situation than you and your wife.

Aim your anger at your politicians. And don't pressure them to attack other sub-groups, pressure them to give you the rights and dignity you deserve.

Lastly, dude really: move somewhere else in the EU. You can find plenty of English speaking jobs, and your knowledge of Mandarin will be a huuuuuge benefit. Heck come to Greece, the Chinese have been buying everything the past 5 years.