Hip Hop/Rap Fanatics Unite!

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TSTR wrote:I can say I have never sold drugs, robbed anyone, killed anyone, ran a train on a ho, pimped anyone out, owned a gun, got in a fight at the club, been in serious trouble with the law, owned a car nicer than a Ford Five Hundred, or made obscene amounts of money.

Therefore, 95% of the rap music I listen to has lyrics to which I cannot personally relate.

I have done a lot of drugs tho. :mrgreen:

neither does most of the rappers writing that shit lol.
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stickem wrote: neither does most of the rappers writing that shit lol.
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The Game - Untold Story - 2004 - Get Low
By late 2004, The Game was creating a big buzz. He had dropped various mixtapes and earned a big enough name for himself to be recruited by G-Unit. His major label debut had been announced and attached to names like Dr. Dre, Eminem, Just Blaze and Scott Storch for production along with his G-Unit brethren as guests. Yet, it wouldn't drop until 2005. So the timing was perfect for JT The Bigga Figga, head of Get Low Records, and the dude that (self-proclaimed) discovered The Game to drop an album on his behalf and cash in. The crazy thing is, this sounds a lot better than the obvious cash in I've described. On the intro JT claims that these verses were recorded in "8 or 9 days," which should make the project feel much more rushed than it does. But really, this is a pretty good album to tide fans over for Game's proper debut. While Mr. Taylor represents Compton, JT and Get Low are from the Bay Area, and the beats make that known. This album is completely produced by in-house producer Sean T. They have a definite Bay Area sound, they're clean and minimal yet for the most part sort of forgettable. But for the most part that's fine. In a sense that puts Game's lyrics up front. And that's the stuff worth hearing here. Even at the start of his above-ground career, all the trademarks are in full effect. The constant name-dropping has been a turn off for many a critic, but I find it endearing. This is a guy who recovered from a shooting by boning up on classic hip hop albums in his hospital bed, determined to become a rapper. And that's what you hear in his words. Utter fandom. I can appreciate that. And while the beats never get in the way, there's a few tracks where the mixing isn't great. Take "Bleek Is," for instance. The vocals feel way too low, which is a drag. It's one of the best beats on the album, and it goes for a hardcore "Takeover"-style diss track aimed at Memphis Bleek (though the chorus is a throwaway). There's also a heck of a lot of guest shots from the Get Low camp, though Young Nobel from The Outlawz also shows up here, which is cool considering Game's adoration of Pac. This is not a great album, but it feels like it was destined to be so much worse. Instead it's kind of an awesome artifact of an artist right on the brink of finding his voice and becoming a real icon. So for that alone, it should be heard by anyone who claims themselves a fan of The Game.


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A$AP Rocky - Long.Live.A$AP - 2013 - Polo Grounds
Wunderkind. That's what I'd call Rocky. After his brilliant Live.Love.Rocky mixtape, he scored himself a huge major label deal and the stakes were high. So what does he do? More of the same? Well kind of, except also totally not. Long.Live.A$AP is full of twists and turns, all the while reminding of you of why he got signed in the first place, or why you (and he) both love hip hop anyway. That slow, druggy chopped-n-screwed shit is here for sure. But Rocky's not afraid to branch out. On the opening track (THE OPENING TRACK!) he sings the chorus himself in a lazy falsetto. "PMW" and "LVL" both have brilliantly slow, purple beats and then a few tracks later you're hit with "Fuckin' Problems" which was somehow a single featuring 2 Chainz, Drake and Kendrick Lamar over a pretty upbeat electro backdrop. But that's nothing, because "Wild For The Night" has Skrillex re-imagining Birdy Nam Nam as a late night on the town with A$AP Mob. Then you've got "1Train," which is a posse cut of the magnitude of "Protect Ya Neck" or "Leflaur Lefleh Eshkoska" and featuring a veritable Who's Who of current hip hop with a lineup of (ready?) Kendrick, Joey Bada$$, Yelawolf, Danny Brown, Action Bronson and Big KRIT - all spitting what I'd consider some of their finest stray verses. "Fashion Killa" is this total 90's-styled radio track that was weirdly never a single and then the album shifts gears for its closing with "Phoenix," a haunting Dangermouse production and "Suddenly," a self-produced track that goes on without a drumbeat for most of its existence, teetering on self-destruction until finally erupting into celebration. There's also deluxe edition bonus tracks totally worth hearing - among them a diss track at SpaceGhostPurrp as well as a duet with Florence from Florence And The Machine. Whereas Live.Love.A$AP was amazing for its focused vision, Long.Live.A$AP is amazing for taking that vision and stretching it out in as many directions as possible while sounding like Rocky.
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Went to a symphony orchestra tonight, which featured Pictures at an Exhibition by Modest Mussorgsky. (I've been on a roll lately. Over the weekend took my lady out to as movie, on a walk, made her favorite salmon recipe, took her ice skating, and took her to the symphony. Will probably go out later tonight for cocktails as well).

Noise, you may think you've never heard it, but listen to the first few notes of the promenade.

That's right. The same few motes at the very beginning of Tical.
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Luke wrote: Noise, you may think you've never heard it, but listen to the first few notes of the promenade.

That's right. The same few motes at the very beginning of Tical.
you just... blew my mind. Nice find!
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A$AP Rocky - Live At Rock Im Park - 2013 - Star Live Concerts
As a fan of the artist, I should hate the idea of this bootleg. But the fact that such a good sounding, well-curated live show is reaching retail so easily is kind of awesome to me. Live At Rock Im Park finds A$AP Mob performing live in Germany, and the fidelity is fantastic. Enough so that it would almost justify a legit release, except actual live hip hop albums tend to be few and far between. The setlist is excellent, incorporating tracks from Live.Love.A$AP, Long.Live.A$AP as well as rarities like the early Youtube release "Purple Kisses," or "Hands On The Wheel," which is actually a Schoolboy Q track. But what makes this brief (dozen song) set so awesome is the love that the bootleggers put into making it a full package. They also included another six tracks at the end of random freestyles by A$AP Mob. It's kind of awesome to hear them spitting over Tyler The Creator's "Goblin" for example. Unfortunately, the freestyles don't sound as good, as they're obviously ripped from radio broadcasts and aren't mixed well with the beats far too low. That said, this still feels like a really solid release for fans A$AP fans and is totally worth checking out.

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The Roots - Present - 2004 - Image Entertainment
This is a weird one. Not a bootleg. But not really endorsed by the band (they don't even list it on their own discography). Yet, at the same time it got very wide distribution and lists Richard Nichols (their manager) as an executive producer. Coming after their desire to leave Interscope, it's almost a possibility that this was some kind of deal cut with Image begrudgingly. At any rate, it's an interesting idea. A concert that documents "The Roots & Friends." So it's a Roots album, but with lots of other voices. The problem is more the editing. For instance, opener "Break You Off" from Phrenology fades in jarringly. The song doesn't start so much as you're just suddenly in it. And the weird fade-ins and fade-outs are abundant here. It makes for a total fuck up of the live document. Take the Jazzyfatnastees take on Britney's "Toxic." It's really good... but it feels like a fragment rather than a full song. It's earnest, and awesome, but the fact that it doesn't play out in its entirety makes it feel like some kind of half-assed interlude. A let down. But there's some stuff worth hearing here. The Roots with Mobb Deep doing "Shook Ones Pt 2" is just as good as you imagine. (Mad) Skillz rocking "The Nod Factor" is amazingly just as good in 2004 as it was in 1995. And the soulful "Daily Bread" by Martin Luther is kind of a show-stopper. But man, this just feels like a cash-cow where it could have been a very solid follow-up to The Roots Come Alive. It's completely worth hearing if you're a Roots obsessive, but totally worth passing over if you're not.
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Absolutely lovin this: Has-Lo & Castle Live Like You're Dead

http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-like ... 0002700800
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noiseredux wrote:
Luke wrote:
noiseredux wrote: I feel like this comment is entirely an attempt at causing an argument.
Oh you.

You already know I can't stand lil wayne besides the fact he continuously pumps out diarrhea lyrics.
yes, I know YOU can't stand him. But that also tells me that because you can't, there's probably a whole bunch of albums in his discography that you've not listened to start to finish. Which means that you can't make a real opinion if an album you hate is better than all of Weezy's albums.

I also just think that making little comments like "it sucks, but better than anything ____ has ever done" is just kind of trollish. I'd rather hear "it sucks, and this is why I think it sucks." That would seem to encourage conversation rather than argument.

Except I'm not going to argue. You don't like Lil Wayne. That's fine.
Lil Wayne is an interesting one. Most people either love him or hate him, yet I've always sat on the fence. You can't deny he is a lyricist, but there's so many things that bug me about him. As already mentioned, the laughing at your own lyrics is a no-no. As soon as Vinnie Paz started that shit, he started to become a caricature of his own style. The claims of "Greatest Rapper Ever" despite an inability to freestyle (check his appearance on Tim Westwood - beyond cringeworthy). And yet as much as I want to dislike the guy, he turns up on a track with Q-Tip and Busta a few years back and bodies the shit. He killed that Chris Brown "Loyal" verse.

The reason I wouldn't sit through his discography is that much of his work can teeter on corny, particularly when there was the whole "let's deliver a simile or metaphor that makes no sense, then end it with a word or random celebrity to tie it together". This is what put me off of Drake, but I've grown to enjoy his work, particularly his album last year.

mister j-y - Good call on the Has-Lo/Castle album, I need to check that as Return of the Gasface was full of gems. Mello Music keep putting out great work, they feel a bit like a modern Rawkus Records, at least in terms of consistency rather than sound.

As for ASAP Rocky, I've never understood the appeal. His album had some great songs but he spent half of it talking about his penis getting sucked. Joey Badass is another "saviour of New York" who just doesn't do it for me. And don't get me started on Troy Ave - that guy is trash.
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There's nothing wrong with talking about getting one's penis sucked.

the dick
the dick
is in your mouth
long and hard
oh my god
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Razzmatazz wrote: As for ASAP Rocky, I've never understood the appeal. His album had some great songs but he spent half of it talking about his penis getting sucked.
Well, obviously if he doesn't gel w/ you then he just doesn't gel w/ you, but I feel like your assessment of the album is pretty dismissive. I mean the website you write for gave it an 8 out 10, and had this to say:
The versatility pays off, as A$AP himself delivers throughout, with crisp verses and a pleasing vocal tone dovetailing well with truly excellent production. He can spit multiple flows/styles, and is almost always on point - don't underestimate how difficult that is to pull off.
Sometimes whilst the "saviour" gets all the attention, the dude out of focus is quietly crafting damn good music. You need to check this album out.
...and I can't say that the album has anymore sextalk than any other hip hop LP that you might consider a classic. Heck, The Chronic and Ready To Die are prime examples.
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