Gamer Gate

[Sload Soap]

Critics can be bribed and sexuality sells video games? I am shocked and appalled sirs!

so i should post noodz in my bst thread then?

Yes. Do it. Now.

[Erik_Twice]

That segues into a discussion of how people might think about responding to accusations and about what constitutes consent. She took issue with his response, as is her right to do in an editorial space.

Dude, c'mon, it's an attack piece. A pretty hardcore and nasty one.

I mean, at its core it's about someone saying that someone who was accussed of committing one of the worsts crimes a person can commit spent too much time defending himself and not enough time "contemplating the idea that he might've messed up" calling it "gross" and a"non-apology". She also uses Temkin as an example of people not knowing what sexual consent is (Hypotethically, of course ) and again she doesn't flat out say he's guilty, but that statistically he most likely is. I mean, where there's smoke there's fire, right?

It's a disgusting article in which Kotaku's worst writer decides it is her right to use the life and reputation of a living person as a soapbox accused of a crime in front of the millions of people that read Kotaku everyday just because the site has incredibly low standards for editorial content. It's nothing but a smear piece.

There are things we might agree are not an ethical breach. This is not one of them.

[jp1]

Critics can be bribed and sexuality sells video games? I am shocked and appalled sirs!

so i should post noodz in my bst thread then?

Only if you want my business.

[J T]

Seriously though you shouldn't expect much journalistic integrity from anyone connected to Gawker

gawk
gôk/
verb

1. to stare openly and stupidly.
"they were gawking at some pinup"
synonyms: gape, goggle, gaze, ogle, stare, stare open-mouthed;
informal rubberneck
"I somehow managed not to gawk at his gorgeous roommate"

[TSTR]

Hey, I'm gonna actually post something serious in here!

The Temkin article was one of the most idiotic things I have ever read on that site. If you're accused of a crime, you either defend yourself or own up to it, not organize a roundtable discussion about the societal impact of the crime itself.

Hernandez is also one of the worst offenders in regards to abusing her platform. She's written a number of articles that were nothing but puff pieces designed to push one of her girlfriend's indie games.

/serious

@Sload @jp - Don't tempt me, y'all. If I could also find a way to make it autoplay 2 Live Crew's "Me So Horny" when you open up my thread, that would be great.

[dsheinem]

[quote="General_Norris" and "TSTR"]stuff about the Temkin article[/quote]

I am not defending Hernandez's argument, only that the essay wasn't a "hit piece" but rather a story that allowed her to discuss a topic of interest, which is her place to do in an editorial. She writes:

Temkin almost gets there: he presents the idea that maybe the woman read the situation differently than he did. Given the public manner in which he was accused, it's understandable that Temkin's primary focus in his post was to defend himself. But allow me to take the discussion where he didn't, as this is a good opportunity to speak more frankly about something that affects us all.

The Kotaku editor writes at the end of the essay:

Patricia took the unusual step of rewriting what we'd already published because of a sense from her, me and many readers that the original version and the discussion that followed collectively missed the mark. This was never supposed to be a piece about whether accuser or accused was guilty—everyone is presumed innocent—but rather about ways to handle these kinds of situations better and what we can all take from it in being more open about discussing issues of consent. That isn't how that first piece was received, and as author and editor of the piece, we both feel that's on us. It's never too late to try to do better and I hope this version gets to the core issues more effectively. For transparency's sake, the original version can still be seen at this link.

I just can't get mad at her or Kotaku for running the piece, especially given that they took the extra step of clarifying and contextualizing after the initial publication. Hernandez's "beat" is largely to cover more "controversial" and gender-related issues surrounding gaming, which she does and which she often weighs in on. So what?

More importantly, even if you disagree with the choice to run the essay or the arguments therein, none of that is evidence that games journalism is somehow this horrible field full of corruption and conspiracy. Almost every newspaper, magazine, and news-related TV show features editorials with regularity. I just can't see how this is any different, other than perhaps that there are greater attempts at transparency and clarification than what one finds in most other media. Those sound like good things to me.

[jp1]

@Sload @jp - Don't tempt me, y'all. If I could also find a way to make it autoplay 2 Live Crew's "Me So Horny" when you open up my thread, that would be great.

Me love you long time.

[flex wood]

Almost every newspaper, magazine, and news-related TV show features editorials with regularity.

Name one that posts them on the front page right next to actual news. And no the tiny 12 font of non bold text that says opinion isn't enough to be noticed by most readers.

[dsheinem]

Almost every newspaper, magazine, and news-related TV show features editorials with regularity.

Name one that posts them on the front page right next to actual news.

dude you're grasping

[flex wood]

dude you're grasping

How? If they want to be "journalists" and put out real hard hitting news about the real issues that affect my daily life they sure as hell shouldn't be giving someone a soap box on the same page as real news. Like it or not that isn't news. Putting "articles" like that next to actual gaming news is shady and underhanded especially when the only point of the article is to push the writers agenda.

And yes there's a bunch of sarcasm in this post.