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Nyukki wrote:Unless, is there such a device that's basically another wifi hub that I can place behind the TV and from which I can run an ethernet cable into the PC?

That would free up the wifi card's pci slot.


TRENDnet N450 Wireless Gaming Adapter, TEW-687GA

Got one of these for my 360 a few years back and it works perfectly fine. There are probably a decent variety of newer models out there now to pick from.
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Are you already taking advantage of the other six ports your motherboard (should) support?

The chipset supports 10 USB 2.0 ports. The back panel only has four, but from the manual it looks like you should have three headers to add more. It's possible that any front panel jacks you have now are using them, but each header supports two ports. If you've got a standard couple ports on the front, then chances are you've still got four ports you can utilize somehow. A drive bay adapter maybe, or just a plate adapter that wouldn't need to take a slot away. Keep in mind that what you'd have built in is USB 2.0, and a lot of bay adapters now (at least) are made for 3.0, which has a different port to plug into.

I agree, you'd be better off sticking with PCIe wireless rather than a USB adapter.

Regarding the Molex plug, most USB 3.0 cards I've seen require that additional power. There are a handful out there that don't (such as this one) that are often marketed for Mac Pros. I haven't tried them in standard PC.
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Thanks for all the replies.

isiolia wrote:Are you already taking advantage of the other six ports your motherboard (should) support?

You're right, the motherboard has 6 USB ports in total, four at the rear and two at the front. The two at the front are reserved for a wireless keyboard and mouse dongle (which is always plugged in) and an empty port that I like to keep empty for when I need an external HDD or flash drive. I'm looking to have 12 ports at the back of the PC, four native to the motherboard, and another eight from two of the PCI slots.

isiolia wrote:I agree, you'd be better off sticking with PCIe wireless rather than a USB adapter.

A USB wifi dongle is also my last resort, as I've had bad experiences with drivers for such devices.

Fragems wrote:TRENDnet N450 Wireless Gaming Adapter, TEW-687GA

Got one of these for my 360 a few years back and it works perfectly fine. There are probably a decent variety of newer models out there now to pick from.

Looks good, is it essentially a wifi card that you plug into the motherboard's ethernet port rather than PCI slot? If so, that would solve everything.

Ziggy587 wrote:^ Just get a USB extension cable, then plug in your controller adapter only as you use them. You don't need them all plug in at the same time, being that you can only use one controller at a time. And you have to plug the controller into the adapter anyway, the extra few seconds to plug the adapter into an extension cable wouldn't really be so bad. If you do get the extra four USB ports, you could leave your four most used adapters plugged in, then have one extension cable to swap out the rest.

I appreciate it sounds ridiculous having 12 controllers plugged in simultaneously, but after tinkering with this 'all-in-one-console' on and off for the past three years, I've found it's the only solution for what I want to do. The issue with plugging in and out controllers on the fly is that it confuses JoyToKey, and keys will not necessarily be mapped back the way they were before unplugging.

The way I set map controls is as follows: Map all controls within each emulator to the keyboard, then assign the keyboard strokes to each individual controller through JoyToKey. That way, all controllers are playable with every system. So say I'm playing Super Mario Bros., I can jump around to Genesis games and MAME and Playstation 2 or whatever, all using the NES controller and without needing to leave my seat and pick up another controller.

So there is a NES, SNES, Saturn, Xbox 360, N64 controller and arcade stick that is assigned to Player 1 for all systems at all times and ideally, if I can sort out these extra USB ports, the same luxury for Player 2.

Ziggy587 wrote:So wait, you have ethernet cable near the PC? It's just being plugged into something else? If it's coming from a router, then just get a network switch.

Think I explained that poorly. The internet comes out of the phone line in the wall which goes into a router which has an antenna which let's us all enjoy wifi. All of that is behind the sofa on the opposite end of the room to the PC. What I meant was a device that you plug into the PC's ethernet port which then picks up the wifi, so essentially a wifi card that plugs into the PC's ethernet port.
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isiolia wrote:Are you already taking advantage of the other six ports your motherboard (should) support?

The chipset supports 10 USB 2.0 ports. The back panel only has four, but from the manual it looks like you should have three headers to add more. It's possible that any front panel jacks you have now are using them, but each header supports two ports. If you've got a standard couple ports on the front, then chances are you've still got four ports you can utilize somehow. A drive bay adapter maybe, or just a plate adapter that wouldn't need to take a slot away. Keep in mind that what you'd have built in is USB 2.0, and a lot of bay adapters now (at least) are made for 3.0, which has a different port to plug into.

Only just understood what you're actually referring to. You might be on to something. If I could access the unused 4 on the motherboard, I could throw a 4-port PCI-E USB card and not need to touch the wifi card or the ethernet!
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Nyukki wrote:
Fragems wrote:TRENDnet N450 Wireless Gaming Adapter, TEW-687GA

Got one of these for my 360 a few years back and it works perfectly fine. There are probably a decent variety of newer models out there now to pick from.


Looks good, is it essentially a wifi card that you plug into the motherboard's ethernet port rather than PCI slot? If so, that would solve everything.


It has it's own power supply and basically acts like a wired connection. Just plug it into the wall and connect the Ethernet cable to your PC/360/etc. Since my wireless router had a WPS sync feature setup was simply pressing the button on the router and adapter at the same time.
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Nice, thanks man.
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Nyukki wrote:What I meant was a device that you plug into the PC's ethernet port which then picks up the wifi, so essentially a wifi card that plugs into the PC's ethernet port.


Yeah, they make those.

The speeds of WiFi and USB have been discussed, but now that we're talking about such a device, there's ethernet speeds as well. Still common is the 100Mb connection, which you'll usually see as 10/100. 100Mbps will obviously be slower than Wireless N (even over USB 2.0). You'll have to find out if your motherboard has a 10/100 ethernet or 10/100/1000 (1Gb "gigabit ethernet). If it has gigabit ethernet, then be sure that whatever device you get supports gigabit ethernet as well.
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Also (on the wired-internet camp) if you own your house, put cable in the walls! Was one of the first things I did when I bought my house - easy as pie, even for my all-thumbs self. I have 2 jacks in every room of my house and can easily upgrade to more if I want them.
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Nyukki wrote:
Ziggy587 wrote:So wait, you have ethernet cable near the PC? It's just being plugged into something else? If it's coming from a router, then just get a network switch.
Think I explained that poorly. The internet comes out of the phone line in the wall which goes into a router which has an antenna which let's us all enjoy wifi. All of that is behind the sofa on the opposite end of the room to the PC.

What I meant was a device that you plug into the PC's ethernet port which then picks up the wifi, so essentially a wifi card that plugs into the PC's ethernet port.

So how far away exactly is the Router from the PC? Really, run the Ethernet cable if at all possible. It might mean moving a bookshelf or that sofa temporarily, the speed reliability is worth it.
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CRTGAMER wrote:Really, run the Ethernet cable if at all possible.

Again, I would if I could, but they tell me marriage is all about compromise.

Thanks again for everyone's advice. In the end I went for the USB Plate and a 4 port USB 3.0 pci–e card. Might upload a little video demonstration when I get it all up and running.
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