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darsparx wrote:Not to bump needlessly but I think I may have knocked it down to under 700 even with a i5
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($193.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.87 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($14.35)
Total: $667.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-26 14:00 EDT-0400

Definitely going to save up about 600-800 so I can beef it up later, I'd just like to have a pc I can buy some parts now and next month and have built hopefully and then worry about upgrading later...(especially since I think I still have to thermal paste anyways...)
I think that all looks really nice and a good start. However, my only suggestions is that if you are looking to spend approx $20 on a cooler and an additional $15 or so on thermal paste I would go ahead and spend the total of those two items on a better cooler. Most aftermarket coolers are going to have thermal paste pre-applied on the heatsink base anyway and in my experience the quality of the cooler makes a larger difference in the CPU temps than the quality of the thermal paste.

If you aren't looking to break the bank later on upgrades but you still want to upgrade, I would suggest upgrading the GPU to an GTX 750 Ti which are around $150. According to reviews they are able to run all games (excluding super high end games like Metro LL) at high settings and 1080p. Also an upgrade for your motherboard with better overclock options would be a help as your PC starts to age but you don't want to swap it out just yet. There is some discussion as to whether or not OC'ing actually produces tangible performance boosts, but I have had seen big increases in speed when moving files, unpacking zip files, photoshop, and other non gaming applications. I have also seen large improvements in SOME games. But, that depends on how the game is coded and what the application prioritizes (CPU or GPU).
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Frag Mortuus wrote:
I think that all looks really nice and a good start. However, my only suggestions is that if you are looking to spend approx $20 on a cooler and an additional $15 or so on thermal paste I would go ahead and spend the total of those two items on a better cooler. Most aftermarket coolers are going to have thermal paste pre-applied on the heatsink base anyway and in my experience the quality of the cooler makes a larger difference in the CPU temps than the quality of the thermal paste.

If you aren't looking to break the bank later on upgrades but you still want to upgrade, I would suggest upgrading the GPU to an GTX 750 Ti which are around $150. According to reviews they are able to run all games (excluding super high end games like Metro LL) at high settings and 1080p. Also an upgrade for your motherboard with better overclock options would be a help as your PC starts to age but you don't want to swap it out just yet. There is some discussion as to whether or not OC'ing actually produces tangible performance boosts, but I have had seen big increases in speed when moving files, unpacking zip files, photoshop, and other non gaming applications. I have also seen large improvements in SOME games. But, that depends on how the game is coded and what the application prioritizes (CPU or GPU).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($193.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X OPTIMA CPU Cooler ($27.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.87 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($14.35)
Total: $688.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-26 15:27 EDT-0400

How about that instead? I was trying to stick low anyways so that I could get it sooner than later and upgrade for better gaming(especially because I think I'll want to anyways) I'm just going to use it for school now and some light low-level gaming and crank it high when I get time to upgrade further...
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You sure you're getting a better deal buying a proc and mobo in 2 different places? Combos are usually where it is at. Sometimes memory in there too with those two.
darsparx wrote: Through school, just getting the backup cd so I have some way to install it...(especially because i don't think I can find a cd large enough to use for the install at least I don't think so). If this build looks ok I think I may go ahead and order a few parts like I planned...
You sure getting a Windows key though? Microsoft doesn't care about copying discs, it's the license keys that are the thing. When you have a Microsoft Developer account you just download and burn ISOs yourself. It's the keys you have access to that matter in that case. Windows 7 will be a DVD, not a CD.
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Hobie-wan wrote:You sure you're getting a better deal buying a proc and mobo in 2 different places? Combos are usually where it is at. Sometimes memory in there too with those two.
darsparx wrote: Through school, just getting the backup cd so I have some way to install it...(especially because i don't think I can find a cd large enough to use for the install at least I don't think so). If this build looks ok I think I may go ahead and order a few parts like I planned...
You sure getting a Windows key though? Microsoft doesn't care about copying discs, it's the license keys that are the thing. When you have a Microsoft Developer account you just download and burn ISOs yourself. It's the keys you have access to that matter in that case. Windows 7 will be a DVD, not a CD.

Well that's how pc part picker came up with it when I plugged in the parts, and the cd is a extra thing just to make sure I have some media to install it with the key is recieved when i go and "technically" purchase it through our discount site(which it's technically free but the cd would be nice to have)...
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Chances are your school offers an ISO for download too, which you could burn on your Mac.
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Well I didn't think it would fit on a 700 mb disk...(we've had these for ages since they were bought for some odd reason)...
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darsparx wrote:Well I didn't think it would fit on a 700 mb disk...(we've had these for ages since they were bought for some odd reason)...
Why can't you just buy some DVD's? They are cheap and a good thing just to have on hand.
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Windows Vista and on are DVD ISOs. The 7 x64 image I have at work is about 3.2GB, 8.1 is a little shy of 4GB. So, yeah, you just burn them to DVD.

Or you can make a bootable USB stick, like you pretty much have to for OS X at this point.
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Hobie-wan wrote:You sure you're getting a better deal buying a proc and mobo in 2 different places? Combos are usually where it is at. Sometimes memory in there too with those two.
darsparx wrote: Through school, just getting the backup cd so I have some way to install it...(especially because i don't think I can find a cd large enough to use for the install at least I don't think so). If this build looks ok I think I may go ahead and order a few parts like I planned...
You sure getting a Windows key though? Microsoft doesn't care about copying discs, it's the license keys that are the thing. When you have a Microsoft Developer account you just download and burn ISOs yourself. It's the keys you have access to that matter in that case. Windows 7 will be a DVD, not a CD.
I'm not sure what his major is, but when I was in the Computer Science program, my school gave us a membership to the Microsoft Developers Network (MSDN) which gave us free access to all of MS's applications except Office. The licenses they gave us were permanent, too. I've been out of college for years, but still have use the Windows 7 Pro license I got from them. I downloaded the .ISO from the site and they emailed me a license key. This was available for every OS and version of OS as well as a ton of software developement apps.
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So, DDR4 just launched and just as everyone predicted it is super expensive. 16GB for DDR4 2800 is $379. :shock:


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