HDTV that works with classic consoles?

[fuctfuct]

I realize there are a few threads like this scattered around the board.

I have a 37 inch HDTV but i am in the market for a 26 to put next to my computer desk. It will mainly be used for X360 and PS3. My 37 inch Toshiba 37AV500u is unplayable for anything older then N64. N64 doesn't look great but it works. SNES and others look like they are skipping frames and sound is off at times.

Anyways i would love for this 26 inch to be able to at least play older games so i can get rid of this bulky 20 inch CRT. Can anyone recommend one? or a cheap method to up convert? I am mostly concerned with excellent HD gaming and the rest is an after thought but would be nice.

Thanks

[elvis]

Recommended reading:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=94426

Browse through that to see TVs tested on games that require fast input/output (specifically low resolution fighting games), as well as a number of upscan/upscale devices you can use if you have a TV with a poor internal scaler.

[fuctfuct]

Good read .. thanks

[RyaNtheSlayA]

how about an EDTV or CRT HDTV. Sure they clock in at 200-400 pounds for a 42" but hey, your old consoles will look good, your new ones will look better =)

[Dreamstation]

I play my older consoles on my HDTV and i have no problems.

[V3rtigo]

my 720p plasma has never had any problems and i play a ton of old stuff.

[fuctfuct]

how about an EDTV or CRT HDTV. Sure they clock in at 200-400 pounds for a 42" but hey, your old consoles will look good, your new ones will look better =)

I always thought that would be a good solution. I have read that it can suck for HD games though. Because of the 1080i. I really have no idea.

I play my older consoles on my HDTV and i have no problems.

my 720p plasma has never had any problems and i play a ton of old stuff.

That's great guys... How about adding something useful to like model numbers i (we?) can look up specs and see why?

[RadarScope1]

my 720p plasma has never had any problems and i play a ton of old stuff.

Yeah, I see people saying that all the time on forums, but when I've seen it in action myself, things are definitely off. Playable to be sure, but off.

EDIT: I should say I'm talking about image quality, not lag. The games show up, and they're playable, but they look so weird I can't play them.

[Niode]

My 42" Panasonic Viera Plasma works really well with RGB input. I haven't tested it on anything older than a Saturn though yet since I don't have my NES modded for RGB and don't have the cables for my other systems.

When you upgrade to an HDTV getting the best signal from your systems is vital. For anything 480i/576i or lower this is going to be RGB.

IF {American == 1;
echo"Getting RGB out of consoles is easy. In many cases it involves getting the right cable that supports RGB this is 'component' IE YPbPr or VGA. The only way to get RGB into your TVs is through an RGB transcoder to Component. This can be achieved two ways. Wiring the RGB output from console directly to transcoder. OR wiring RGB output to SCART and then getting a SCART to Component transcoder. The second way is much better since most HDTVs have 1 Component input and you can use the same transcoder for multiple consoles instead of just one."
}
ELSE {
echo"Great, you have access to the European standard SCART. You already have access to RGB input native to your TV. The only thing to do is to perform an RGB mod on said console and wire it up to a standard SCART adaptor."
}

I use at least RGB for all my older consoles connected to my TV except the ones that support EDTV modes (IE Xbox/PS2/Wii etc) which use Component since SCART cannot carry progressive signals to my HDTV.

The difference between composite/s-video is night and day. It is completely sharp and perfectly playable. I have no sync issues so far. (don't forget I haven't got anything older than my Saturn connected).

[marurun]

There's only one problem with that shoryuken thread which is linked. It is quite informative, but with cheap, powerful DSP chips these days it is possible to upscale without lag. The XRGB product they are so bubbly over is an upscaler. If upscaling ALWAYS introduces lag, the XRGB will introduce lag also. And if the XRGB can upscale without lag, that means it's possible for good upscaling circuitry in a TV to also upscale without lag.

You can't have it both ways.