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@Jmustang1968 Yes clearly your educational system is as good as you'd expect from the world's biggest economy

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darsparx wrote: If you really think our education system is bad then that would explain some of the economics since raising minimum wage is the only solution obama and others can come up with when taxes across the board are just getting way to dang high(when taxes and deductions take close to 100 with what little i'm making you know something is wrong)...not to mention inflation. Inflation and taxes making learning and working a joke it seems now a days...
What's the VAT and income tax in the US like?
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Let's just put it this way, i was supposed to make 366 last paycheck but after taxes and deductions and everything I made about a hundred less than that. At the pay rate I'm at i can officially say they are over taxing us and not putting it to good use at that....

Nc's rate for taxing is a lot lower now than it was last year but the actual federal tax(not social security) is what really screws over the paycheck and makes people think we need minimum wage at $16/hour. No we need lower taxes and less inflation :cry:
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A lot of it is culture and the importance put on schooling and education by family and society. So many kids blow it off. It is there if you want it.
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Jmustang1968 wrote:A lot of it is culture and the importance put on schooling and education by family and society. So many kids blow it off. It is there if you want it.
Where do you think all this "cultural and family/societal importance" comes from? If you want a great society you have to educate the populace, and not by force. Darsparx is one of our younger members who has or is recently been in school. How he feels is how a lot of youth feel. You want to know whats really wrong with our school system look at policies like No Child Left Behind.

We definitely should move a lot of these disscusions to our World issues thread.
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ZeroAX wrote:
darsparx wrote: If you really think our education system is bad then that would explain some of the economics since raising minimum wage is the only solution obama and others can come up with when taxes across the board are just getting way to dang high(when taxes and deductions take close to 100 with what little i'm making you know something is wrong)...not to mention inflation. Inflation and taxes making learning and working a joke it seems now a days...
What's the VAT and income tax in the US like?
Significantly lower than most European nations.
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darsparx wrote:Let's just put it this way, i was supposed to make 366 last paycheck but after taxes and deductions and everything I made about a hundred less than that. At the pay rate I'm at i can officially say they are over taxing us and not putting it to good use at that....

Nc's rate for taxing is a lot lower now than it was last year but the actual federal tax(not social security) is what really screws over the paycheck and makes people think we need minimum wage at $16/hour. No we need lower taxes and less inflation :cry:
So income tax is less than 30%? That's not much. Also you are at the sweet spot for inflation (about 2%). Go much less than that and you get into the falling prices trap. Ask Japan about it and how it can kill economic growth.
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pepharytheworm wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote:A lot of it is culture and the importance put on schooling and education by family and society. So many kids blow it off. It is there if you want it.
Where do you think all this "cultural and family/societal importance" comes from? If you want a great society you have to educate the populace, and not by force. Darsparx is one of our younger members who has or is recently been in school. How he feels is how a lot of youth feel. You want to know whats really wrong with our school system look at policies like No Child Left Behind.

We definitely should move a lot of these disscusions to our World issues thread.
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Jmustang1968 wrote: The notion that something needs to be fun to be worthwhile. We have become instant gratification nation. Instead of realizing, 'hey this is important, I should pay attention' it is ehh this is boring or this sucks, screw this.

But learning is fun. If you manage to make chemistry, science, programming, philosophy, geometry (not going to say algebra is fun since it's so distant from the "real world" for most people), boring then there's something wrong with the way you teach.
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ZeroAX wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote: The notion that something needs to be fun to be worthwhile. We have become instant gratification nation. Instead of realizing, 'hey this is important, I should pay attention' it is ehh this is boring or this sucks, screw this.

But learning is fun. If you manage to make chemistry, science, programming, philosophy, geometry (not going to say algebra is fun since it's so distant from the "real world" for most people), boring then there's something wrong with the way you teach.
Yeah, a teacher can make an impact on how fun a topic can be. But I have been in classes I or others have enjoyed and some just thought it was horrible.

My brother was this way. Something didnt go the way he liked, like 'lectures are horrible, I wont learn from that' he will just write it off in his head that he cant and blow it off using that as the excuse.

Many dont think learning is fun, or only want to learn specific things.
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