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Voter turnout is a bad metric. I'd rather see 5% of people voting who actually understand the issues and candidates rather than a 60% turnout of people who vote for the guy with the best hair.
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Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Too bad you aren't seeing a bunch of well-informed people voting usually, it's often just people that have been drummed up by some scare-mongering tactic.MrPopo wrote:Voter turnout is a bad metric. I'd rather see 5% of people voting who actually understand the issues and candidates rather than a 60% turnout of people who vote for the guy with the best hair.
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Yeah, I had to practically beg my brother to vote. He's a few years younger than me but is completely disaffected by the whole thing. And it's not that he's uniformed or anything; he actually helped out when my mum ran to be a local councilor. He's just fed up with the rhetoric.ZeroAX wrote:
It's tragic that in Slovakia we had only 13% voter turnout. And in the Czech Republic it was 18%. And at first I thought the UK's 34% would be the lowest turnout....
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This :/. When there is a low turnout usually it's the extremist-fringe parties that do well, because their supporters are by far the most loyal, while centrist parties usually get many undecided votes.AppleQueso wrote:Too bad you aren't seeing a bunch of well-informed people voting usually, it's often just people that have been drummed up by some scare-mongering tactic.MrPopo wrote:Voter turnout is a bad metric. I'd rather see 5% of people voting who actually understand the issues and candidates rather than a 60% turnout of people who vote for the guy with the best hair.
......all this about many parties in parliament must confuse the fuck out of you Americans
Don't be shocked at people's capacity for being stupid.Adam wrote:I'm shocked that UKIP managed to get one seat to represent Scotland. Their representative hates Scotland!
I won't lie, I used to be apathetic about voting too because of all of the corruption, but when things got really bad (namely nazis in parliament) I understood the importance of voting even if it's to vote the "guy you hate less"Sload Soap wrote:Yeah, I had to practically beg my brother to vote. He's a few years younger than me but is completely disaffected by the whole thing. And it's not that he's uniformed or anything; he actually helped out when my mum ran to be a local councilor. He's just fed up with the rhetoric.ZeroAX wrote:
It's tragic that in Slovakia we had only 13% voter turnout. And in the Czech Republic it was 18%. And at first I thought the UK's 34% would be the lowest turnout....
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So yeah, results were awful. Besides the victories in Denmark, France and the UK, the extreme-right has positioned itself as the third party in many other countries and in places they have not, the extreme-left has gained a good chunk. Racism and xenophobia are on the rise and while they won't actually have much of an impact in the parliament, it's still worrying.
I fear many facets of the worst of people had been repressed politically in the EU. The Daily Mail demographic didn't have a racist party to vote for after the BNP started to fall and the extreme-right has always been a threat in the otherwise progressive Scandinavia. The economic crisis has simply led to a resurgence of these concepts.
While worrying, I don't think any of these movements will last for long and I feel that the EU is entrenched enough and good enough that it can only be damaged if there's a catastrophe.
I fear many facets of the worst of people had been repressed politically in the EU. The Daily Mail demographic didn't have a racist party to vote for after the BNP started to fall and the extreme-right has always been a threat in the otherwise progressive Scandinavia. The economic crisis has simply led to a resurgence of these concepts.
While worrying, I don't think any of these movements will last for long and I feel that the EU is entrenched enough and good enough that it can only be damaged if there's a catastrophe.
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Like 6 years of economic crisis?General_Norris wrote:the EU is entrenched enough and good enough that it can only be damaged if there's a catastrophe.
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More like "a member country falls into a civil war or splits into several parts".
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Scotland from UK? Catalonia from Spain?General_Norris wrote: splits into several parts".
We have to be fair, the world is going through VERY turbulent times and most elected politicians seem to be of the "keep the ship steady in calm waters" kind at best.
Then again this might give birth to a new generation of great statesmen like the post-WW2 era.
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Nah, I think those are unlikely, I'm more worried about Eastern European countries running into those problems.
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Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
One of the reasons why there's so much rhetoric is because it gets people to stop voting. Less general say means that people whom are running can have a larger influence on policies by keeping various people in office.Sload Soap wrote:Yeah, I had to practically beg my brother to vote. He's a few years younger than me but is completely disaffected by the whole thing. And it's not that he's uniformed or anything; he actually helped out when my mum ran to be a local councilor. He's just fed up with the rhetoric.
I would say that, people who are fed up, or tired, are the ones whom should be the first out there to vote. That's actually the majority of people.
Throwing your hands up and saying, fine ... let the people antagonizing everyone have their way ... is not a good idea.