Rumor: YouTube buying Twitch for 1 Billion

[BRIK]

I don't really think anyone would need to worry about a ContentID system if everything is being streamed live. I doubt the algorithm itself is real-time, let alone additional overhead.

I dunno... when it has picked up something of mine it's picked it up within 10 minutes of uploading. Who's to say that it doesn't scan stuff as you're streaming, and eventually cans it if it finds a match?

[marlowe221]

Well.... this sucks.

[Fragems]

I don't really think anyone would need to worry about a ContentID system if everything is being streamed live. I doubt the algorithm itself is real-time, let alone additional overhead.

Never underestimate ContentID they have put a lot of effort into it . Flags any game video I put up within minutes and asks if I want to strip the music out of the audio. To tell the truth it has made me afraid to post anything up on youtube that could be remotely considered copy righted getting flagged feels like have a target painted on your back .

[Cronozilla]

I don't really think anyone would need to worry about a ContentID system if everything is being streamed live. I doubt the algorithm itself is real-time, let alone additional overhead.

I dunno... when it has picked up something of mine it's picked it up within 10 minutes of uploading. Who's to say that it doesn't scan stuff as you're streaming, and eventually cans it if it finds a match?

It probably did it while YouTube was processing the video.

My guess would be that Content ID works by making a profile on videos as they're being "converted" during upload. And it likely is still going through all the previous videos uploaded to the system to produce profiles of those.

That still doesn't mean it works in real-time. There's still a decent amount of offline processing going on. There has to be a way to quantify the content coming in to match it against Content ID databases ... it's not something you can do on the fly very reliably.

The only possible application I could think of is if it saves your stream and goes through it after the fact. But then what would they do? Flag the account? No one would use it.

I think Twitch has already encountered a lot of these issues themselves, and I would imagine Google would stand behind a lot of that terminology. Otherwise, people just wouldn't use their services anymore.

I think the Content ID stuff on YouTube is something of a unique case, because YouTube has become synonymous with online video. Copyright holders will just hold Google accountable for anything that happens on YouTube. The Content ID system was likely made because they couldn't handle the volume of infringement notices. Regardless if they're accurate or not. They're things they have to look at, under threat of the FBI.

Google doesn't really have a long history of acquiring other companies or technologies and just stomping them into the ground. They buy them to utilize it. Will Twitch be absorbed into YouTube? Maybe. Or maybe Twitch will stay its own thing and will just have Google integration.

People should wait until something actually happens before losing their minds.

[Xeogred]

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/04/ ... resources/

That was a little misleading. It doesn't sound like they're getting rid of G+ itself, but just knocking off on the awful forced integration they've tried with it (youtube, etc).

[BRIK]

I don't really think anyone would need to worry about a ContentID system if everything is being streamed live. I doubt the algorithm itself is real-time, let alone additional overhead.

I dunno... when it has picked up something of mine it's picked it up within 10 minutes of uploading. Who's to say that it doesn't scan stuff as you're streaming, and eventually cans it if it finds a match?

It probably did it while YouTube was processing the video.

My guess would be that Content ID works by making a profile on videos as they're being "converted" during upload. And it likely is still going through all the previous videos uploaded to the system to produce profiles of those.

That still doesn't mean it works in real-time. There's still a decent amount of offline processing going on. There has to be a way to quantify the content coming in to match it against Content ID databases ... it's not something you can do on the fly very reliably.

The only possible application I could think of is if it saves your stream and goes through it after the fact. But then what would they do? Flag the account? No one would use it.

I think Twitch has already encountered a lot of these issues themselves, and I would imagine Google would stand behind a lot of that terminology. Otherwise, people just wouldn't use their services anymore.

I think the Content ID stuff on YouTube is something of a unique case, because YouTube has become synonymous with online video. Copyright holders will just hold Google accountable for anything that happens on YouTube. The Content ID system was likely made because they couldn't handle the volume of infringement notices. Regardless if they're accurate or not. They're things they have to look at, under threat of the FBI.

Google doesn't really have a long history of acquiring other companies or technologies and just stomping them into the ground. They buy them to utilize it. Will Twitch be absorbed into YouTube? Maybe. Or maybe Twitch will stay its own thing and will just have Google integration.

People should wait until something actually happens before losing their minds.

Good point with "YouTube has become synonymous with online video".
I can imagine copyright holders would have a harder time targeting Twitch since it's all steaming based. I've never used it before (so forgive me if I'm wrong) but the stream doesn't get saved afterwards, does it? This way there would be no point of reference for copyright holders.

[Aramonde]

I've never used it before (so forgive me if I'm wrong) but the stream doesn't get saved afterwards, does it?.

Yes it is possible to save streams and view them on your channel.