POLL: Bootlegs / Reproductions: What is allowed

[oxymoron]

I have a question, well two. Where did this dilemma sprout from? Did someone get scammed?

[pepharytheworm]

I have a question, well two. Where did this dilemma sprout from? Did someone get scammed?

supposedly this thread isn't about anyone getting scammed from this site directly, but from the possibility of someone getting scammed from another source that procured products from our site. Party A sells repro labeled as such to party B on Racketboy. Party B then goes and sells it on ebay or another source as the real deal and not as a repro to party C.
Think of it as blaming home depot for selling a crowbar that someone buys to rob your home. Or a closer example someone selling a knockoff handbag, then the buyer turns around and sells it to another who thinks they bought a Micheal Kors. Blaming the bar for the drunk drivers behaviors.

[Onyxthecat]

I just want to point out I'm not Chinese lol. My wife's parents moved back there in 2007 right before the housing market crashed/myself and my now wife went to college. So we go to China every year and I pick up games and what not. It started out as a simple request for a certain game and then became a little side thing for me. Half for fun, half for some extra cash that has been helpful in my current time of need.
Second, I'll be honest in saying I must have skipped out on my research when getting Curse because I was unaware of it's intrinsic value. Simple as that. All others were chosen SPECIFICALLY because of rarity or the going rate in the collector world. I am a gamer/collector/designer/mechanic/Jeeper and all around DIYer, I liked the idea of being able to play all of the awesome games that I could never afford on my childhood Sega Genesis. I know most people here do as well.
Even if only a few people who are vocal enough here oppose me, I find it extremely helpful and I think it keeps our community from becoming a stale environment. If you don't contribute and voice your opinion in a respectful way, how will others who don't post so often understand? Every group needs leaders and we have those here because they care. Like any hobby or even career, there are people passionate about it and thats what keeps it alive. I hope the mods come to some kind of agreement whether it be ban repro's of any kind or allow it with strict enforcement.

[CRTGAMER]

I liked the idea of being able to play all of the awesome games that I could never afford on my childhood Sega Genesis. I know most people here do as well.

Even if only a few people who are vocal enough here oppose me, I find it extremely helpful and I think it keeps our community from becoming a stale environment. If you don't contribute and voice your opinion in a respectful way, how will others who don't post so often understand? Every group needs leaders and we have those here because they care. Like any hobby or even career, there are people passionate about it and thats what keeps it alive. I hope the mods come to some kind of agreement whether it be ban repro's of any kind or allow it with strict enforcement.

I think it will be a missed opportunity if the repos/bootlegs get banned. As long as you clearly identify in the Sale Thread (which you have) that they are not the originals, I see no issue of bootlegs for out of print and sometimes hard to find used games. This allows the choice up to the buyer to stand on their merits whether to buy only originals or not.

Should a bootleg cart itself be altered to clearly identify its not original? For me, even as a bootleg game, I would not want it altered. Besides as others pointed out already if an expensive game, then time should be taken to scruntinize the label, cart case or PCB differences before a purchase.

The flak about one profiting from selling a older bootleg game is moot when even legit used games resold are taking away business from a possible sale of a new game on the shelf.

[Opa Opa]

The flak about one profiting from selling a older bootleg game is moot when even legit used games resold are taking away business from a possible sale of a new game on the shelf.

I think there's a pretty big disparity between selling a bootleg of a twenty year old game and selling used copies of a game that came out last week.

[bryan_65]

Besides as others pointed out already if an expensive game, then time should be taken to scruntinize the label, cart case or PCB differences before a purchase.

That is not always possible. If I die my wife will sell my shit, and will not be able to help you guys with scans or opening anything, she will be able to say what most people will.

''It looks original and everything plays fine, buy AS IS.''

Most transactions are also on the internet where you can't hold something in person.

[Hobie-wan]

Think of it as blaming home depot for selling a crowbar that someone buys to rob your home. Or a closer example someone selling a knockoff handbag, then the buyer turns around and sells it to another who thinks they bought a Micheal Kors. Blaming the bar for the drunk drivers behaviors.

Come on man, it's exactly like the bag example being a bootleg, but nothing like the crobar or bar one. That's just trying to turn it into sensationalist BS. What the next silly escalation statement going to be, "ConcernedForumPerson said that guns don't kill people, bootleg carts do"?

[ninjainspandex]

Besides as others pointed out already if an expensive game, then time should be taken to scruntinize the label, cart case or PCB differences before a purchase.

That is not always possible. If I die my wife will sell my shit, and will not be able to help you guys with scans or opening anything, she will be able to say what most people will.

''It looks original and everything plays fine, buy AS IS.''

Most transactions are also on the internet where you can't hold something in person.

Then she shouldn't be selling any carts for high prices. That would be selling a car and saying it looks good and runs fine but I don't know how to open the hood. She would have to sell for "as is" prices. Lets be honest it isnt like your going to find these fakes at garage sales.

[aaron]

The flak about one profiting from selling a older bootleg game is moot when even legit used games resold are taking away business from a possible sale of a new game on the shelf.

I think there's a pretty big disparity between selling a bootleg of a twenty year old game and selling used copies of a game that came out last week.

so you're saying we should ban the sale of used games as well, then.

[Opa Opa]

The flak about one profiting from selling a older bootleg game is moot when even legit used games resold are taking away business from a possible sale of a new game on the shelf.

I think there's a pretty big disparity between selling a bootleg of a twenty year old game and selling used copies of a game that came out last week.

so you're saying we should ban the sale of used games as well, then.

Not a clue how you got that out of my post.