World is Falling Apart Thread (Locked forever)

[Jmustang1968]

Well forcing an owner to sell the team has yet to be determined.

[prfsnl_gmr]

Well forcing an owner to sell the team has yet to be determined.

True. That issue will come down to contract interpretation, however, and the first amendment will not facotr into the analysis at all.

[Erik_Twice]

You guys can't imagine how much I hate the ethnocentric idea that freedom of religion and speech are what the US Constitution say it is.

[ZeroAX]

You guys can't imagine how much I hate the ethnocentric idea that freedom of religion and speech are what the US Constitution say it is.

That's because it's a free country, unlike you European socialist scum who restrict the rights of the people.

[dedalusdedalus]

You guys can't imagine how much I hate the ethnocentric idea that freedom of religion and speech are what the US Constitution say it is.

That's a fair criticism, but since the point was raised in the context of an NFL player being fined for anti-gay remarks, there was no ethnocentric intent in framing the discussion in terms of the US Constitution.

Now that you raise the point though, I have to wonder: has any state ever implemented freedom of speech or religion without making the distinction between a government actor and a private actor?

[prfsnl_gmr]

You guys can't imagine how much I hate the ethnocentric idea that freedom of religion and speech are what the US Constitution say it is.

What else would it be?

I am serious here. I cannot conceive of protections of religion and speech broader than what we have in the United States, and I would like to read your thoughts on how they could be broader.

Also, I think it is worth noting that all of us were responding to these posts:

Wow the US has become extremely anti free speech.

and

It is just the way America has become. If you disagree with someone's lifestyle choice, you cannot speak your opinion, but everyone is allowed to degrade your opinion because it isn't politically correct.

[BoneSnapDeez]

Wow the US has become extremely anti free speech, and really just freaking uptight about everything.

When Michael Sam, the 1st openly gay NFL player was drafted, a Miami Dolphin player tweeted "Oh my, horrible" when Sam and his boyfriend kissed on TV.

The Miami player was fined and suspended. Since when is not ok to have your own feelings about something? It's not illegal to believe homosexuality is wrong, or did I miss something?

If my religion teaches it's not ok to be gay, and you force me to accept gay people with your laws and rules, you can't go back and try to amend my religion because freedom of religion.

The world has officially lost its mind.

Totally agree man.

It was outrageous when the the government fined all those homophobes and threw a bunch of Christians in prison.

Oh wait.

[Erik_Twice]

Yeah, I know it made sense in context, it's just something I really hate because it's thrown around gaming dicussion a lot

What else would it be?

Broad philosophical concepts which are, in turn, were codified into international and national law in some countries.

When the anarchists burned down churches back in the XIX century, that was a violation of Christians' freedom of religion despite goverments not being (generally) involved. Similarly, when D&D was forced out of stores by Christian groups, that was a violation of Wizard of the Coast's freedom of speech.

I am serious here. I cannot conceive of protections of religion and speech broader than what we have in the United States, and I would like to read your thoughts on how they could be broader.

I'm not well-versed on American law but, for example, employees can be fired "at will" in most states, which includes being fired over political affiliation to a party or union.

[jvalentine98]

Welcome to the USA, where we will tell you what views you can have, and what to say. Freedom is here as long as people approve of your views.

[BoneSnapDeez]

Are you incapable of realizing that your actions have consequences?