Wii-U thoughts so far

[BoringSupreez]

me again, here with your regular dosage of gloom and doom:

http://kotaku.com/nintendo-reports-a-lo ... 1572841102

The Wii U has sold ~6 million units worldwide since November 2012. The PS4 has already outsold it (~7 million), and the Xbox One is more than half way to the Wii U's numbers (with ~5 million shipped to retailers).

By comparison, the Gamecube sold about ten million units in the same timeframe. The Wii sold about 25 million units in the same timeframe.

I think that very soon the question must shift from "why would third parties continue to develop games for the Wii U?" to "Why would Nintendo continue to develop games for the Wii U?"

Now to wait for a handful of posters to dispute your points with anecdotes about how they love their Wii U and own more games for it than any other modern console.

[BoneSnapDeez]

Does the PS4 even have games?

[dunpeal2064]

Either it does, and it outsold the Wii U, or it doesn't... and it outsold the Wii U.

Not a very good question for a Wii U thread.

[alienjesus]

me again, here with your regular dosage of gloom and doom:

http://kotaku.com/nintendo-reports-a-lo ... 1572841102

The Wii U has sold ~6 million units worldwide since November 2012. The PS4 has already outsold it (~7 million), and the Xbox One is more than half way to the Wii U's numbers (with ~5 million shipped to retailers).

By comparison, the Gamecube sold about ten million units in the same timeframe. The Wii sold about 25 million units in the same timeframe.

I think that very soon the question must shift from "why would third parties continue to develop games for the Wii U?" to "Why would Nintendo continue to develop games for the Wii U?"

Now to wait for a handful of posters to dispute your points with anecdotes about how they love their Wii U and own more games for it than any other modern console.

There's not a lot to dispute. The Wii U is not doing well. I DO love my Wii U, and I DO own more games for it than the other modern home consoles (I don't own those ) and yes, there's much more on the horizon for Wii U that interests me than for the PS4 or XBox One. It's just a shame that's not the case for most.

The Wii U isn't a console that can be turned around really in my eyes when it comes to sales. I can see it turning around enough to match the Gamecube perhaps, but that's not really a success, and it's not a good target to have to be aiming for. Smash Bros and Mario Kart should see a reasonable jump in sales, but I don't imagine it'll be a sustained one.

On the other hand, I don't see Nintendo rushing another console out of the door, but I can see this generation being shorter than the lifespan of the original Wii for sure.

I'll just take solace in the fact that at the very least, Nintendo will continue putting out their usual quality stuff, so there'll always be something to play on the system. There are plenty of sales flop systems over the years that have had a solid library of exclusives, so here's hoping we see some classic on Wii U too.

At least the 3DS is doing well now.


P.S I do wish there were seperate threads for discussing the games on the Wii U and the Wii U's sales woes. It feels odd having one master thread for a console like this. Same goes for the Vita thread.

[emwearz]

me again, here with your regular dosage of gloom and doom:

http://kotaku.com/nintendo-reports-a-lo ... 1572841102

The Wii U has sold ~6 million units worldwide since November 2012. The PS4 has already outsold it (~7 million), and the Xbox One is more than half way to the Wii U's numbers (with ~5 million shipped to retailers).

By comparison, the Gamecube sold about ten million units in the same timeframe. The Wii sold about 25 million units in the same timeframe.

I think that very soon the question must shift from "why would third parties continue to develop games for the Wii U?" to "Why would Nintendo continue to develop games for the Wii U?"

Dave, the thing I find so funny about your negativity towards the Wii U is that you love the Vita so much, a system that sales are horrendous and its library of games is so small it is a joke, and you always crap on about how if they stopped making games for it, you would be happy with what has come out already.

Yet, you love posting and commenting negatively in this thread, when it is pretty much the same (though the Vita is in a far worse boat, we know Nintendo have a huge lineup for the Wii U with quality titles, Sony seem to have forgotten they made the Vita) situation. System not selling well, but loved by those who own it. I own both, I love both. Seems you have barely touched a Wii U and love slagging it off when you can.

[BoneSnapDeez]

I'm confused by dish's taste in general. He's typically a staunch defender of consoles that have small libraries of niche games and/or were perceived to be "bad" (Atari 7800, 32X).

But as I recall, he doesn't like the N64 either. So there is that.

Back to the Wii U though, anyone pick up LEGO The Hobbit?

[ejamer]

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[dsheinem]

Dave, the thing I find so funny about your negativity towards the Wii U is that you love the Vita so much

I don't see a discussion of sales/ speculation on the future of the Wii U as "negativity" per se, it is something I am interested in because I am fascinated by Nintendo's shifting market presence over time and because I am trying to figure out when would be the right time (for me) to pick up a system. As I've said many times, I do eventually plan to pick one up - the new Mario Kart deal is actually tempting me a bit, to be honest.

The Vita sales numbers are likely horrendous, no doubt (I can't recall seeing them lately), but that's less surprising considering that the Vita follows the PSP (which was also a distant second to the DS) whereas, by contrast, the Wii was the top selling console last gen: it is a dramatic shift in market presence. The sales of the Vita is a much less interesting discussion to me, so I instead prefer chatting about my experiences with the system. That said, I don't begrudge someone the right to jump into that thread and speculate about the future implications for its current sales numbers.

I'm confused by dish's taste in general. He's typically a staunch defender of consoles that have small libraries of niche games and/or were perceived to be "bad" (Atari 7800, 32X).

But as I recall, he doesn't like the N64 either. So there is that.

I think that's a fair critique, but having owned both when they were new, I think that both the 32X and the 7800 were poor investments in their day. I think Sega and Atari were running their company on hubris and made bad calls that alienated third parties and resulted in relatively small (if interesting) libraries. I think Nintendo is doing the same thing, really. I have no doubt that the Wii U will be a great "retro console" in time and I think there are games worth checking out eventually, but it is the speed towards which I think it heading towards "retro" status that makes me hold out on picking it up prior to what seems to be an inevitable abandonment/clearance.

[darsparx]

To be honest a small library isn't what's plaguing the vita, it's licensing issues. There are plenty of games on it( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pl ... Vita_games ). Not to mention they severely locked down the system to where you basically need a second vita or have to reformat each time to use a different region/account. But it does seem like both wii u and vita may be plagued by lack of developer interest now. Sure you see some commercials for games coming to wii u but you don't see many for vita games. If it wasn't for those two things maybe they'd have better libraries...

[Opa Opa]

Meh. Sales are in the toilet and writing is on the wall, but I'm still enjoying my Wii U. Just about finished playing through Super Mario 3D World and it's been fantastic. Expect to get a lot more life from the game because my two kids also love playing it, and the multiplayer is fantastic.

Glad I didn't pay more than $200 for the console although consider it "probably worthwhile" at that price even if remains nothing more than a fully backwards-compatible Nintendo box. That said, I do hope Nintendo continues to support the system for a while longer - at least long enough to get Bayonetta 2 and (most important to me) X released in North America. After X comes out I couldn't care less about future support. That is the moment the console becomes fully justified for me with no caveats attached.

That's quite a lot of faith to have in one game that, outside two or three trailers, very little information has been given.

On the polar opposite of the spectrum, Mario-related games get a constant stream of news detailing levels, features, and characters.