Best Possible Wiring Config For Many Consoles to One TV?

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MrPopo wrote:
Hobie-wan wrote:
MrPopo wrote: A/V Switch 1 (all S-Video):

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Why isn't that on component sir?
Aren't there issues with some games over component into an HDTV?
Yes, but that's what XRGB is for.

Understandable to gradually add component and RGB cables to not spend too much at once.
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Upstairs I have my HDTV with only 4 ro 5 consoles. Every thing has an input since I'm using an AVR. Downstairs I have all my retro consoles and my CRT, about 10 consoles. I can't be bother with switch boxes and whatnot. None of the consoles are hooked up. They're on shelves above the TV. If I want to play one, I take it down from the shelf and plug it into the TV's front AV inputs (if you're TV doesn't have front inputs you can get male-female extension cables and plug them into the back). When I'm done playing, I might disconnect it and put it back on the shelf. Or if I'm playing through an RPG or something that takes a few hours and multiple game sessions, I might leave it hooked up until I've completed the game. Either way, a max of only one console is connected at a time.

I don't find it to be a pain at all. All my AV cables and power adapters are in a drawer. I keep them organized a certain way. It might look like a mess pile of wires, but I can find what I need right away and nothing is ever tangled. These things aren't designed to be constantly plugged and unplugged, but I'm careful and don't yank them out. They'll be fine.

Anyway, that's what's been working for me for some years now. I know it's not for everybody, but I'm perfectly happy with that system.
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I've bought a few Composite+S-Video switches. Maybe I have bad luck, or I'm too cheap, but they all seem to make the video look a bit worse than direct connection.

My solution isn't practical but I'll tell you about it anyway :D For my few consoles I use an old A/V Receiver. It was my Onkyo that was in the living room but then the HDMI pass-thru began to mess up. Tiny drop outs bare noticeable except that streaming apps using HDCP freak out thinking you're an irate pirate and you have to restart the stream. So it got retired. It's hooked up via S-video and composite to a 27" Sony TV. Only 5 or 6 inputs (not counting composite from the front) but it works. The same cable does double duty for GameCube and N64 (swap it at the console). Signal looks nicer than the switches provide. My sound goes through some rather old JBL book-case speakers. Left, center and right.

So I guess....look for an old A/V receiver! You don't need HDMI if you're retro. Big clunky old speakers can sound good if you have room and they aren't too beat up.

So, N64 and GameCube share an input with a cable swap, Dreamcast, Saturn, PS2, Genesis and then the Atari 2600 goes through the coax input and uses the TV speakers.
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SoltanGris wrote:I've bought a few Composite+S-Video switches. Maybe I have bad luck, or I'm too cheap, but they all seem to make the video look a bit worse than direct connection.

Sounds like you've found the wrong switches. i don't know if it's just me but my turk one that does composite and s-video shows up pretty well. My only beef with it is I wish it was a auto-switch. I still seem to forget which input is which sometimes. And that's with the fact mine are labeled with a notecard I taped on. I really should organize it though I need to clean up the power cords and such....
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My answer isn't necessarily what most people are looking for, BUT...

I've been modding my systems to get rid of proprietary cables, just have default RCA/S-Vid jacks on the back of them. That way, I just leave 1 set of Component/S-Video/Composite cables hooked up to the back of my TV, and switch them at the system side.

This takes a few extra seconds to start playing on a new system, but with 20-25 systems out, I REALLY don't want to have them all plugged in and drawing power (even powered off, anything plugged in draws power) anyway, so if I'm plugging it into the power strip, I might as well just plug in the AV connections too.

Between those 3 standard cables, a Nintendo cable, and a Playstation cable, I can hook up basically everything. My only 6-gen and prior systems that require a cable that's not one of those 5 at this moment are my Jaguar (which is currently off being investigated to see if it can be Component modded with RCA jacks), my Master System (which can be modded, just haven't gotten around to it), my Odyssey^2 (same), and my Fairchild Channel F (which I have yet to find a working mod for and annoys me that it's RF-only). 7th gen systems are hooked up via HDMI to the flat panel.
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MrPopo wrote:Aren't there issues with some games over component into an HDTV?
Yes, but that's what XRGB is for.

Understandable to gradually add component and RGB cables to not spend too much at once.
I've actually had issues trying to get the component input to work on my XRGB. I had the component to whatever that weird connector adapter is, but it didn't like coming out on the PC out.
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SoltanGris wrote:I've bought a few Composite+S-Video switches. Maybe I have bad luck, or I'm too cheap, but they all seem to make the video look a bit worse than direct connection.
If the connections aren't good, the switch accepts a lot of interference, the switch and cables are being put near something making a lot of interference, or the cable out of the switch to the TV is crappy, then it will degrade the signal. If multiple switches seemed to be an issue, maybe it was that last cable or some placement of things you were repeating each time.
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If you're stuck on a composite only enabled TV like me, I would recommend everyday switchboxs. Works for me.
I have two sets of composite plugs on the TV which have a switchbox each, as well as an additional switchbox daisychaining off one. Each button is labelled which I find very important. I've tried to do with without labels but as your collection grows, it just becomes impossible and annoying to figure out which button corresponds to what. I use to have hand written labels using tape you can write on, but I recently came across a labeller on the cheap which neatens things up quite a bit.

I also have each cable labelled with what console they plug into, which helps a lot in the long run.

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Short answer - an auto-switching AV switch, or a decent AV receiver can take multiple inputs and output them to one display. Depending on your needs, the answer is different.

While certainly not the best (I wanted to do it on the cheap but without losing any quality - I went through several smaller setups that were lacking before this one), I had success with a long chain of switches and cables going to only 3 inputs on my CRT TV (composite, S-video & component) without needing to do anything but turn the console on and switch to the correct video TV video source with the tv remote. IMO the video quality was not noticeably degraded despite the bulk of cables running hidden behind the entertainment center.

An old post with a picture of my old switches here:
Topic: RCA/S-video selector

I was using a SCART to YUV(Component) transcoder and was able to cram a few more consoles in after that post before I made the switch to an XRGB and Keene SCART Commander with a Logitech Harmony remote.


The hardware in my CRT setup involved
Two Philips PH61150 chained together in auto-switch mode
Intec G5295
Unnamed non-powered 5-to-1 SCART connected to a
Cypress CSY-2100

The only expensive part was the Cypress transcoder, tho at the time it was the cheapest available option for getting SCART RGB onto my TV. The Philips switches were purchased for around $20 each at a liquidator and the heavy shielded component cables for around $5 each at the same place. It was perfect for my SD CRT and I'd recommend any but the Cypress transcoder (some nagging problems with certain systems from several people due to I think cabling and signal issues which other hardware can deal with better).

Some further reading on the previously linked post and this one too wouldn't hurt - AV Switch
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MrPopo wrote:I've actually had issues trying to get the component input to work on my XRGB. I had the component to whatever that weird connector adapter is, but it didn't like coming out on the PC out.
I've never used that version. The new model is said to be less picky, of course no VGA in or out...
Anapan wrote:The hardware in my CRT setup involved
Two Philips PH61150 chained together in auto-switch mode
Intec G5295
Unnamed non-powered 5-to-1 SCART connected to a
Cypress CSY-2100

The only expensive part was the Cypress transcoder, tho at the time it was the cheapest available option for getting SCART RGB onto my TV. The Philips switches were purchased for around $20 each at a liquidator and the heavy shielded component cables for around $5 each at the same place. It was perfect for my SD CRT and I'd recommend any but the Cypress transcoder (some nagging problems with certain systems from several people due to I think cabling and signal issues which other hardware can deal with better).

Some further reading on the previously linked post and this one too wouldn't hurt - AV Switch
Oh the switcher we've talked about before with a Sega Genesis compatibility issue. Otherwise pretty good.
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