Student Records Proof of Bullying, gets charged with........

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Or it can escalate into a bigger problem. Responding physically to a bully could trigger them to become even more violent beyond just picking on them.

My younger brother was being bothered by another kid on the bus. He was constantly talking crap and smacking him on the back of his head. He wouldnt do anything back because he was taught not to. My sister then told him to fight back. Well my parents get a call the next day informing them my brother is in a lot of trouble. He fought back and broke the kids nose and gave him a concussion and they took him to a hospital. My brother had to finish the semester in an alternative school.
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Jmustang1968 wrote: My younger brother was being bothered by another kid on the bus. He was constantly talking crap and smacking him on the back of his head. He wouldnt do anything back because he was taught not to. My sister then told him to fight back. Well my parents get a call the next day informing them my brother is in a lot of trouble. He fought back and broke the kids nose and gave him a concussion and they took him to a hospital. My brother had to finish the semester in an alternative school.
Don't want to bash America again, but this is a country where it's ok to shoot someone who is "in your property" (no I'm not debating guns here, please let's not change the subject), but a kid got intro trouble because he fought back?

Anyway I would tell your brother to be more careful cause he can do damage and get in trouble, but that on principal he was correct to hit back.
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ZeroAX wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote: My younger brother was being bothered by another kid on the bus. He was constantly talking crap and smacking him on the back of his head. He wouldnt do anything back because he was taught not to. My sister then told him to fight back. Well my parents get a call the next day informing them my brother is in a lot of trouble. He fought back and broke the kids nose and gave him a concussion and they took him to a hospital. My brother had to finish the semester in an alternative school.
Don't want to bash America again, but this is a country where it's ok to shoot someone who is "in your property" (no I'm not debating guns here, please let's not change the subject), but a kid got intro trouble because he fought back?

Anyway I would tell your brother to be more careful cause he can do damage and get in trouble, but that on principal he was correct to hit back.
Well, a couple of things to understand:

1. Our schools are a hodgepodge of ideas, especially in how we discipline students and for what reasons. A lot of this can be left up to the school in terms of how it handles its problems, with the exception of where local, state, or federal law mandates a response, though US schools do tend to disproportionately target certain groups or ethnicities for punishment.

2. Your self-defense at home/school remark hits on the relative opposites in terms of point of view in the US. There are some people who wouldn't blame the kid for fighting back at all and would let him get off with minimal fuss. There will be others who refuse to allow the use of force in any situation, regardless of what the aggressing party does in this situation. In US schools, the line is generally an opposition to force in any and all situations involving children. This can have strange effects, such as some US school systems not allowing Seikh's to carry representations of religious objects because they resemble knives or forcing children to change because their shirts have an image of a firearm. In a few cases, kids have even gotten suspended for chewing Pop-Tarts into the shapes of pistols or making shooting motions with their fingers.

3. America is a weird place.
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Ack wrote:or forcing children to change because their shirts have an image of a firearm
I was asked by the school cop to turn my Guns N Roses shirt inside out. I didn't care because he was really nice about it.
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ZeroAX wrote:Don't want to bash America again, but this is a country where it's ok to shoot someone who is "in your property" (no I'm not debating guns here, please let's not change the subject), but a kid got intro trouble because he fought back?
As an American, please go ahead and bash gun nuts, they deserve it.

Seriously though, schools especially are weird. I saw a picture on 9gag that said something to the effect of "So my kid can't bring a peanut in to school because someone might be allergic, but you can let your unvaccinated kid bring measles, rubella, whooping cough, etc?" which just struck me as sad, even though I'm not a parent myself and never will be.
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KalessinDB wrote:
ZeroAX wrote:Don't want to bash America again, but this is a country where it's ok to shoot someone who is "in your property" (no I'm not debating guns here, please let's not change the subject), but a kid got intro trouble because he fought back?
As an American, please go ahead and bash gun nuts, they deserve it.

Seriously though, schools especially are weird. I saw a picture on 9gag that said something to the effect of "So my kid can't bring a peanut in to school because someone might be allergic, but you can let your unvaccinated kid bring measles, rubella, whooping cough, etc?" which just struck me as sad, even though I'm not a parent myself and never will be.
Or don't...

And, at least in Texas, children cant attend public school without up to date immunization records.
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