Pulsar_t wrote:
Already posted that several (dozen?) pages back Except that someone did start the fire. There was colonialism, and there were two big WW's, and there was plenty of shit before those. Perhaps why the Arab spring failed was because it was a spontaneous uprising without a scheming elite fueling and banking on it to take over, like the Bolsheviks did for example. Tunisia is a small country and they got lucky despite all the challenges that they're facing.
Personally I blame us. If Alexander the Great hadn't destroyed their greatest empire, Iran wouldn't be so hostile towards the west. But we still haven't been made to pay for our crimes of the past...ch...ch...ch
ZeroAX wrote:Personally I blame us. If Alexander the Great hadn't destroyed their greatest empire, Iran wouldn't be so hostile towards the west. But we still haven't been made to pay for our crimes of the past...ch...ch...ch
I wouldn't. Iran has been hit by plenty more since then, including the likes of Genghis Khan and Timur. There are a lot of reasons why Iran is the way it is.
Pulsar_t wrote:Already posted that several (dozen?) pages back Except that someone did start the fire. There was colonialism, and there were two big WW's, and there was plenty of shit before those. Perhaps why the Arab spring failed was because it was a spontaneous uprising without a scheming elite fueling and banking on it to take over, like the Bolsheviks did for example. Tunisia is a small country and they got lucky despite all the challenges that they're facing.
Or the United States. Let's face it, the founding fathers of the US were also a bunch of scheming elites.
ZeroAX wrote:Personally I blame us. If Alexander the Great hadn't destroyed their greatest empire, Iran wouldn't be so hostile towards the west. But we still haven't been made to pay for our crimes of the past...ch...ch...ch
I wouldn't. Iran has been hit by plenty more since then, including the likes of Genghis Khan and Timur. There are a lot of reasons why Iran is the way it is.
Come on Ack you are smarter than this. I was just making a joke about how silly it is to keep going waaaaay back in history for modern problems. We could go all the way back to the stone age and blame the first monkey-man who picked up a stone and threw it at another person.
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ZeroAX wrote:Personally I blame us. If Alexander the Great hadn't destroyed their greatest empire, Iran wouldn't be so hostile towards the west. But we still haven't been made to pay for our crimes of the past...ch...ch...ch
I wouldn't. Iran has been hit by plenty more since then, including the likes of Genghis Khan and Timur. There are a lot of reasons why Iran is the way it is.
Come on Ack you are smarter than this. I was just making a joke about how silly it is to keep going waaaaay back in history for modern problems. We could go all the way back to the stone age and blame the first monkey-man who picked up a stone and threw it at another person.
I know. I'm just saying the Iranians would do better to build a wall to keep out those God damn Mongolians.
The only solution I can see is Ukraine splitting in two, and having the western part join Nato and the EU, and the eastern part join Russia (coupled of course with major economic sanctions against Russia). It's unfortunate. All the people in Kiev wanted was a country with rule of law and without so much corruption, but Putin can't stand those values as they might spread to Russia and affect his rule.
BoneSnapDeez wrote:The success of a console is determined by how much I enjoy it.
The only solution I can see is Ukraine splitting in two, and having the western part join Nato and the EU, and the eastern part join Russia (coupled of course with major economic sanctions against Russia). It's unfortunate. All the people in Kiev wanted was a country with rule of law and without so much corruption, but Putin can't stand those values as they might spread to Russia and affect his rule.
You mean split the country along the Dneiper River, including splitting Kiev in two?
Except that someone did start the fire. There was colonialism, and there were two big WW's, and there was plenty of shit before those. Perhaps why the Arab spring failed was because it was a spontaneous uprising without a scheming elite fueling and banking on it to take over, like the Bolsheviks did for example. Tunisia is a small country and they got lucky despite all the challenges that they're facing.
