World is Falling Apart Thread (Locked forever)

[BoringSupreez]

Anyone needing more proof that Russia must be punished economically HARD? Putin got Crimea with basically ZERO real sanctions, and now he's preparing a more violent takeover.

Putin has shown no indication that he cares about whatever sanctions we impose on him.

[ZeroAX]

Anyone needing more proof that Russia must be punished economically HARD? Putin got Crimea with basically ZERO real sanctions, and now he's preparing a more violent takeover.

Putin has shown no indication that he cares about whatever sanctions we impose on him.

The Russian population/oligarchs will once their day to day lives get affected by the economic pain.

Just look at Iran. Economic sanctions can work, and when his entire presidency is based on him making their day to day lives better, I can't see him being able to hold on to power if the economy collapses.

[BoringSupreez]

Anyone needing more proof that Russia must be punished economically HARD? Putin got Crimea with basically ZERO real sanctions, and now he's preparing a more violent takeover.

Putin has shown no indication that he cares about whatever sanctions we impose on him.

The Russian population/oligarchs will once their day to day lives get affected by the economic pain.

Just look at Iran. Economic sanctions can work, and when his entire presidency is based on him making their day to day lives better, I can't see him being able to hold on to power if the economy collapses.

I doubt it. This is the same country that used to be the Soviet Union, after all. I remember being told by someone from Russia that "Russians are great at suffering."

[ZeroAX]

I doubt it. This is the same country that used to be the Soviet Union, after all. I remember being told by someone from Russia that "Russians are great at suffering."

Yeah that's what we were saying too, then we stopped being dirt poor, and now many people are being driven to their limits by the crisis. Once you are used to a comfortable life, it's hard to go back.

[RCBH928]

How would America put sanctions on Russia?

Russia is so big and powerful that it can stand on its own. When you compare that to Iran, Iran builds nothing. They are a 3rd world country with many enemies around the border, not to mention fears of uprising from the inside.

If USA decided to put economic sanctions on Russia, what would USA do if Russia and China decides to put sanctions on USA as a response?

[Pulsar_t]

If USA decided to put economic sanctions on Russia, what would USA do if Russia and China decides to put sanctions on USA as a response?

The PRC would do no such thing, at least not for the foreseeable future. Their economy is too entangled with the US for it to be feasible, not to mention historically-speaking the two nations were usually adversaries to varying degrees. Everything is subject to change though.

Sanctions usually serve to embitter the populace towards the forces that impose them. It's the modern version of laying siege to a town sans the physical pillaging and rape (occasionally they come with that as well ) Little about the modern world would discourage cynicism in any rational person, but it's always been this way.

[ZeroAX]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27008026

Funny how the "fascists" in Maidan never fired back (well, 99% of them at least), even when they had snipers shooting at them, and yet these "normal everyday protesters" are so well organized to set up control points and shoot to kill 2 days into their "struggle".

And the Russians wonder why not a single country from the Warsaw pact likes them.

[ZeroAX]

Well Kiev has finally made its move

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27035196

And Europe decided to do as always the absolute minimum to help out, by starting to sell gas to Ukraine.....yay for European values

[Pulsar_t]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/14 ... democracy/

So the difference between Russia and the States, in the latter your head doesn't get bashed in (at least not routinely)

[prfsnl_gmr]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/14 ... democracy/

So the difference between Russia and the States, in the latter your head doesn't get bashed in (at least not routinely)

You do realize that the article is running in an Iranian news source, correct?