The Wrestling Thread

[Luke]

Well, that was the first time I saw all of the Wyatts wrestle. I thought up until last night one of them always stayed in a rocking chair.

Considering The Shield: Good wrestlers, terrible actors.

[BurningDoom]

Cena dropped a promo on Raw tonight that almost sounded like a shoot. He said him and Randy Orton have ruled the WWE for a decade, but now we're in a time of change with the network around the corner, and the fans want people like Daniel Bryan. He then says if guys like Bryan, Cesaro, The Shield or The Wyatts want to be the future of the WWE, they'll have to go through him

So basically, he just said, "I'm the glass ceiling, good luck trying to break through it...that includes you Daniel Bryan"

I think the fans might be sick of just recycling the old characters, I like the older guys like Hogan and Kurt, they had more substance but there is only so much you can get out of guys that didn't have it in the first place like Batista and Cena and the rest. Those guys are very commercial, and IMHO I think they are in it for the money only unlike guys like Flair, Hogan, and Macho who got genuine love for the sport

I'm a Cena basher as much as the next Attitude Era fan. But one thing you have to give credit to Cena for, is that he does truly love wrestling. He's put in a ton of time and support to the business (even if that support has led it down a road I don't like).

[TheRev]

Raw last night was a prime example of everything WRONG with the WWE right now. WHile everyone is pissed off and butt hurt about Daniel Bryan, I'm more upset about how they are treating Dolph Ziggler, he has everything but they keep burying him. Did HHH catch him getting a handy from Steph or something? It makes no sense.

TNA isn't any better Mangus is being booked like a joke. But TNA is getting better.

Ring of Honor continues to be the highlight of my Wrestling week, I find my self waking up at 4 am just to watch it. I wish ROH could get a cable deal and a 2 hour weekly show simple booking, simple storylines and great wrestling I think they could get alot of jadded WWE fans over to their side. What half the WWE Roster now came from ROH anyway.

It's either watch more ROH or learn Japanese to see Good Wrestling.

[BurningDoom]

TNA isn't any better Mangus is being booked like a joke. But TNA is getting better.

You are the only person I have heard say this.

To me, TNA seems like it's in worse shape than it's EVER been. Stars are jumping ship left and right from the company (A.J. Styles, Rob Van Damn, Jeff Hardy, Sting, Kurt Angle is pursuing returning to WWE right now). The arenas and crowds are getting smaller and smaller. They can't afford to put real PPVs on T.V. anymore. You can almost hear TNA's death-throes.

No counting the financial problem, though, the storylines are practically non-existent. We have yet another company power struggle at the top of the card, and rivalries mid-card we could care less about. And like MVP as the investor was some awesome, big reveal or something. Nobody cares about the purple Power Ranger.

[TheRev]

The more we say TNA is dying, the longer they exist to spite us. maybe being positive about TNA is the only way to get rid of them.

[Gamerforlife]

Raw last night was a prime example of everything WRONG with the WWE right now. WHile everyone is pissed off and butt hurt about Daniel Bryan, I'm more upset about how they are treating Dolph Ziggler, he has everything but they keep burying him. Did HHH catch him getting a handy from Steph or something? It makes no sense.

TNA isn't any better Mangus is being booked like a joke. But TNA is getting better.

Ring of Honor continues to be the highlight of my Wrestling week, I find my self waking up at 4 am just to watch it. I wish ROH could get a cable deal and a 2 hour weekly show simple booking, simple storylines and great wrestling I think they could get alot of jadded WWE fans over to their side. What half the WWE Roster now came from ROH anyway.

It's either watch more ROH or learn Japanese to see Good Wrestling.

Personally, I'm sick of people complaining about Ziggler. He had his chance and he blew it. As a babyface, he was completely incapable of connecting with the audience. He just kept playing his stupid, heelish, "Show off" character. He's just like Miz, who turned face and yet still kept playing his annoying, "The Miz" character. These guys just don't "get it". Ziggler is overrated. You heard it here first. You want someone who can deliver a great match and sell offense like nobody's business, Ziggler's your man. You want a charismatic babyface who can get big pops, he's not it. Ziggler's mid card material and I will stand by that until he does something to prove me wrong.

So is Zack Ryder, another guy who was given the spotlight and was completely unable to do anything with it beyond repeating the same stupid catch phrases over and over again. There's a reason why guys like Punk and Bryan have overcome bad booking, and guys like Ryder and Ziggler haven't. The cream always rises to the top.

I'm sick of internet people going on and on about Ryder and Ziggler all the time. Both guys were given the spotlight when WWE heard the fan outcry for them, and they did NOTHING with their 15 minutes of fame. If Ziggler thinks wiggling his ass around and wearing pink shirts is going to get him over as a top babyface, he needs a reality check. And Ryder needs to learn how to say something other than, "Woo, woo, woo" and "You know it" when he speaks. I tune in to see people with interesting personalities, not cartoon characters with one liners.

Sorry for that little rant, but I feel some guys deserve all the internet buzz they generate (like Punk and Bryan), others don't. Reminds me of how the IWC used to go on and on about Del Rio, and now everyone finally sees that he's never going to be more than what we've seen. They turned him face, gave him a push, he flopped. Why? Doesn't know how to connect with the audience. So few guys understand that. It's why Bryan is ridiculously over, because he DOES get that.

[RCBH928]

TNA is probably like WCW in its last days, I didn't watch WCW back then but those who did described the same stuff that is going on in TNA right now. Any way, I do not think TNA management is doing wrestling for financial reasons, they do not care if it makes profit, I once heard TNA was owned by some energy company that they use TNA somehow to evade taxes or something like that

[BurningDoom]

The more we say TNA is dying, the longer they exist to spite us. maybe being positive about TNA is the only way to get rid of them.

I don't want that, though. Believe it or not, I am a TNA fan. I've watched TNA for years, and for many of those years have preferred it to the PG-Era WWE.

I'm not being a hater and just saying it out of spite. I'm genuinely concerned for TNA. RCBH928 is completely right about it feeling like WCW in it's last days. I mentioned that in an earlier post. I did watch WCW until the end (greatest wrestling company ever).

[Gamerforlife]

God knows, WWE needs even more reasons for people to hate them right now. So let's hear what dicks the announcers are!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc8E4CHF7n0

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_ ... 6287.shtml

WWE has actually been usually clever ways of drowning out Punk chants the past two weeks. Turning off house mics, or just cutting to commercials, but if you read live reports online there have been a lot of Punk chants at shows

They've also confiscated Punk signs from people at live events, because we all know how WWE respects freedom of speech

[RCBH928]

How come the a pre-show footage got leaked out?
Maybe the WWE are planning on one big keyfabe angle about hating on CM Punk as he makes a return, you know something like montreal screwjob(which I still don't know if it was keyfabe or shoot)

WWE fans are one of the weirdest people out there, they hate the product but they still attend all the shows, buy the PPVs, and watch all the RAWs.