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kidfresh wrote:Oh, and with Miyamoto considering retirement, Nintendo will be an interesting story to watch for the next decade or so.
This is going to be the real interesting thing. When he retires we'll be able to get a real sense of how much core input he has on games these days. Obviously early on he was The Man behind everything, but as dev teams get larger he is now sharing gameplay design decisions with others. If he's successfully trained several people in the high level design style that he has then we should see little change when he's gone.
He's been made the face of Nintendo's game development for obvious reason, but I too do really wonder how much of it he's behind anymore. He's admitted in the past that the games have gotten more complicated and beyond his ability to be really hands-on and to me that made him sound more like a consultant than anything else.

If that's the case, even if he retires I doubt he'd sever ties with Nintendo entirely and his opinions would probably still have a lot of sway with the company.

On the topic of Nintendo hurting and going the way of Sega:

I wouldn't worry about it too much. I think too many people worry about this simply because we saw Sega fall and it's our only frame of reference. But they're two very different companies and the circumstances are only similar on the surface level. Sega was never very good at managing its money or marketing, Nintendo has always been a lot smarter at that. The Dreamcast was Sega putting all of its eggs into one basket. The Wii U really isn't. It would take more than one flop to force Nintendo out of the hardware market entirely and I don't think we're anywhere near that point yet.
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I kind of wish Nintendo would shift their focus away from home consoles and instead focus entirely on portables. They have always had a strong hold on the portable market and their systems are still very competitive with whats out their.

Instead of making home consoles they could maybe invest some time and effort into making advanced docking stations with A/V output and controller support.

Also having only one system to develop games for would make expanding their library with first party titles much easier as well.
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I still truly believe the naming took a huge bite out of their ass. I'm sure there's hundreds of thousands of potential buyers out there they could have had if they knew the Wii U was different from the Wii. There are still tons of people out there that don't know this.
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Xeogred wrote:I still truly believe the naming took a huge bite out of their ass. I'm sure there's hundreds of thousands of potential buyers out there they could have had if they knew the Wii U was different from the Wii. There are still tons of people out there that don't know this.
Yeah still kind of disappointed that we ended up with the Wii name in the first play Revolution sounded so much better :P. I agree the Wii - U name was a bad idea. Adding U doesn't really tell you anything about the system and doesn't really scream progress.

On another note what does the U stand for? Is it a cute way of saying "you" or what?
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Fragems wrote:
On another note what does the U stand for? Is it a cute way of saying "you" or what?
Yeah.

It was supposed to represent how they were focussing on "you" the player. The hardcore kid sitting there all night playing Metroid Prime. You.

To be fair, the games they have been making (mostly) represent this. Unfortunately it's an awful name and they shouldn't have named it that though.

Hell, Nintendo U sounds okay. Why the Wii branding? I just think that hurt it more than anything.
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Xeogred wrote:I still truly believe the naming took a huge bite out of their ass. I'm sure there's hundreds of thousands of potential buyers out there they could have had if they knew the Wii U was different from the Wii. There are still tons of people out there that don't know this.
I agree, I thought it was a huge marketing blunder. I think to the random consumer it came off more as an updated Wii than an entirely new console.
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The day Nintendo stops making home consoles, will be a very sad day indeed.
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BurningDoom wrote:The day Nintendo stops making home consoles, will be a very sad day indeed.
Well if they did a docking station setup like I was saying technically they could claim it as a home system with a portable component depending on how they packaged it. Just a random idea :P.

I think Nintendo will always have a presence in the living room though.
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Fragems wrote:
BurningDoom wrote:The day Nintendo stops making home consoles, will be a very sad day indeed.
Well if they did a docking station setup like I was saying technically they could claim it as a home system with a portable component depending on how they packaged it. Just a random idea :P.

I think Nintendo will always have a presence in the living room though.
Frankly it's not out of the realm of possibility for the next go around. Portable hardware is advancing at quite the rate and the streaming tech they use for the gamepad is pretty top notch. I could see something like that happening.
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