Random Thoughts Thread

[flex wood]

EDIT: Just saw a commercial for weight gain pills. I thought we were at the point people realized what it took to get fat. (Although it seemed like it was directed at women with high metabolisms who couldn't get curves.)

Actually trying to intentionally get fat (and stay that way) is actually a lot harder than you might expect.

Yes, but as a guy with a natural bit of a gut, I would kill to be one of those skinny little tiny guys.

http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html

If anyone knows where the link is actually from don't say it because he won't read it.

Read this a couple of times. Weight loss isn't something that just happens and you magically stay thin, you have to put forth effort and count your calories, even more so for for gaining weight surprisingly.*

Your body is used to the amount of calories it gets, when you change it for a long period of time most people (the ones that complain about not being able to keep weight off) go back to their old eating habits when they are satisfied with with the weight loss they've achieved.

* I should say its extremely hard to gain weight healthily. Anyone can drink a 2 liter with every meal and junk food. Try getting 4k cals while not resorting to fast food. Although mcdoubles are a godsend for the amount of protein they contain and at only 350 kcals

[stickem]

^ last week had to eat out a lunch break quick and had 4 mc doubles large fry and sweet tea. Roughly 2000 cals. Didn't gain a thing.

[flex wood]

Oh trust me I'm not knocking them. Before I picked up a power cage, oly bar and full plate set for 100 bucks (if you think that's cheap the guy only wanted 50 but I didn't have change on me) from craigslist the gym I was going to was a block over from a McDonalds. Whey protein starts really messing with my stomach after taking it post workout for few weeks so I had to figure something easy to help me fit my macros. I was hitting that sucker up after every workout all summer.

[Valkyrie-Favor]

I was on a 5000 calorie diet during senior year trying to bulk up. didn't get much bigger but did put on over 15 pounds of muscle!

[Forlorn Drifter]

http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html

If anyone knows where the link is actually from don't say it because he won't read it.

Read this a couple of times. Weight loss isn't something that just happens and you magically stay thin, you have to put forth effort and count your calories, even more so for for gaining weight surprisingly.*

Two things: I won't read it because you suggest I won't read it based on where the link is from, and I just get quite aggravated at the guys who complain about being skinny all the time. Girls like skinny guys, the media likes skinny guys, hell, everybody likes skinny guys. Just a tiny bit of gut fat or man boob and I'm a fat slob. At least, according to a decent amount of people.

[stickem]

http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html

If anyone knows where the link is actually from don't say it because he won't read it.

Read this a couple of times. Weight loss isn't something that just happens and you magically stay thin, you have to put forth effort and count your calories, even more so for for gaining weight surprisingly.*

Two things: I won't read it because you suggest I won't read it based on where the link is from, and I just get quite aggravated at the guys who complain about being skinny all the time. Girls like skinny guys, the media likes skinny guys, hell, everybody likes skinny guys. Just a tiny bit of gut fat or man boob and I'm a fat slob. At least, according to a decent amount of people.

That's what you THINK they like....

[KalessinDB]

Oh, you know, some disease hit so that he was rapidly losing weight and needed to gain some. Or he wanted to bulk up, and you bulk up by increasing caloric intake and transforming it to muscle by exercising.

While I agree with you on the "people occasionally want to bulk up" thing, a million times no on the "Transforming it to muscle"... I worked at GNC for 7 years and that always drove me crazy. Fat is fat, muscle is muscle, you cannot and do not transform one to the other. The reason people think that is because some bodybuilders and the like go through "Bulking phases" where they're just trying to get bigger, no matter what, then go through "cutting phases" where they lean out.

So basically, they put on (numbers completely made up!) say 20 lbs total. In that 20 lbs, 10 lbs of it is fat and 10 lbs of it is muscle. They then in their cutting phase will take off that 10 lbs of fat (and probably, because of the way the body works, 2 or 3 lbs of the muscle too)... so they net by going up 7-8 lbs of muscle. But they didn't "transform" any of the fat to muscle, cuuuuz those are 2 completely different cells in the body.

Sorry, </rant>, just one of my pet peeves from waaaaaaay too long spent in that store

[o.pwuaioc]

Oh, you know, some disease hit so that he was rapidly losing weight and needed to gain some. Or he wanted to bulk up, and you bulk up by increasing caloric intake and transforming it to muscle by exercising.

While I agree with you on the "people occasionally want to bulk up" thing, a million times no on the "Transforming it to muscle"... I worked at GNC for 7 years and that always drove me crazy. Fat is fat, muscle is muscle, you cannot and do not transform one to the other. The reason people think that is because some bodybuilders and the like go through "Bulking phases" where they're just trying to get bigger, no matter what, then go through "cutting phases" where they lean out.

So basically, they put on (numbers completely made up!) say 20 lbs total. In that 20 lbs, 10 lbs of it is fat and 10 lbs of it is muscle. They then in their cutting phase will take off that 10 lbs of fat (and probably, because of the way the body works, 2 or 3 lbs of the muscle too)... so they net by going up 7-8 lbs of muscle. But they didn't "transform" any of the fat to muscle, cuuuuz those are 2 completely different cells in the body.

Sorry, </rant>, just one of my pet peeves from waaaaaaay too long spent in that store

I never said they wanted to gain fat. I said they wanted to increase their caloric intake.

[KalessinDB]

Two things: I won't read it because you suggest I won't read it based on where the link is from, and I just get quite aggravated at the guys who complain about being skinny all the time. Girls like skinny guys, the media likes skinny guys, hell, everybody likes skinny guys. Just a tiny bit of gut fat or man boob and I'm a fat slob. At least, according to a decent amount of people.

Watch out for media perceptions. Just like far too many women end up with eating disorders because of unrealistic photoshop levels of beauty, so too can guys. Most women (at least those beyond high school and early college) aren't actually like that. My girlfriend is ridiculously fit, abs and everything, whereas I'm pretty big -- I got the gut, I definitely have manboobs, even at my skinniest I had both of those -- and yet she's still crazy about me. I wouldn't sweat what shallow people think.

[KalessinDB]

Oh, you know, some disease hit so that he was rapidly losing weight and needed to gain some. Or he wanted to bulk up, and you bulk up by increasing caloric intake and transforming it to muscle by exercising.

While I agree with you on the "people occasionally want to bulk up" thing, a million times no on the "Transforming it to muscle"... I worked at GNC for 7 years and that always drove me crazy. Fat is fat, muscle is muscle, you cannot and do not transform one to the other. The reason people think that is because some bodybuilders and the like go through "Bulking phases" where they're just trying to get bigger, no matter what, then go through "cutting phases" where they lean out.

So basically, they put on (numbers completely made up!) say 20 lbs total. In that 20 lbs, 10 lbs of it is fat and 10 lbs of it is muscle. They then in their cutting phase will take off that 10 lbs of fat (and probably, because of the way the body works, 2 or 3 lbs of the muscle too)... so they net by going up 7-8 lbs of muscle. But they didn't "transform" any of the fat to muscle, cuuuuz those are 2 completely different cells in the body.

Sorry, </rant>, just one of my pet peeves from waaaaaaay too long spent in that store

I never said they wanted to gain fat. I said they wanted to increase their caloric intake.

It was your use of "transform it to muscle"... call it conditioning, but that's an instant red flag in my mind. No offense intended though, sorry.