How dead is the Wii?

[ZeroAX]

@ZeroAX

You can't count PC in, simply because I do not count PCs as a console competitor. People who discuss buying 360 or ps3 are just way more than people who discuss buy ps3 or PC. Plus a gaming PC is way out of range in price, I believe you can get a PS3 for $250 but a gaming PC would cost you at least $500 (At least thats what I have been told, not to mention price of the Windows) . Also a PC is not usually to be hooked to your TV , and uses keyboard and mouse. Sure you can modify it to work in a TV setup, but I am guessing PC gamers are very different from console gamers.

There are a lot of ps3 exclusive that are worth while:
- Beyond: Two Souls -Demon's Soul -Heavy Rain -God of War -Puppeteer -Little Big Planet -Killzone -Infamous -Folklore -GT

I dunno I feel those are just more worthwhile than Zack and Wiki, Red Steel, and Elebits. Of course we will always have the Mario platformer and the Mario Kart, but I am really looking at those as a negative not a positive because I am tired of the no new IPs but thats my opinion.

You can't rule out any competitor. If you start adding abstract rules I can add too:

PS4 and Xbone online multiplayer will cost you 50€ a year. So let's say you can get an awesome gaming PC with windows included for 700€. You can remove from that the price of buying a new cheap computer to use for internet and stuff which would cost you at least 300€, so in reality the gaming part of your PC costs 400€. The same as a PS4 and less than an Xbone.

Now let's say that computer lasts you 5 years, you'd pay an extra 250€ in those years for PS4 and Xbone online which you get for free on the computer. So that's already a 250-350€ price difference depending on which console you buy.

Then add to that the fact that most new console games cost 60-70€ while the same exact games on PC cost 40-50€ brand new (I am not going to even factor steam sales into this). So if you buy say 20-30 games over the consoles lifetime (I've bought at least 30 games for my Wii and probably around 40 for my PS3 during all these years) you save another 400-600€ on gaming on a PC.

And since most games come out on PC too these days you won't be missing on a lot of console exclusives like in the previous generations of consoles. So PC wins vs next gen consoles by a landslide if you use my logic



But you will buy a console for the unique gaming experiences that it offers you right?
With that basic logic the Wii U and Wii have the same potential of offering you unique gaming experiences as the other consoles. So why does everyone like calling them shit? Why so much hate for this console which dared to be different?

The Wii had many amazing unique games. My PS3 is probably my most played console of all time, but the console on which I played the strangest, most unique games was the Wii.

The PS3 and 360 had by far more average games from me, but the Wii had by far the most "best" games, the games that people will be playing again 10-20 years from now, just how we like playing SNES games to this day. If you try to apply any kind of "logic" to dissing its game library, I can use the same logic to diss every console's library and we'll just be going in circles like we already are.

[Violent By Design]

But PS3's games are unique too, Sony has always delivered the goods on exclusives. I don't think that will change. I could see Microsoft going a bit more exclusive heavy this generation as well. I think Microsoft and Sony likely realize that PCs might make their gaming consoles redundant, so I wouldn't be surprised if they started producing more games that will not come out on PC. I know Microsoft has expanded its first party studios.

I also think the Wii having very strange and unique games is blown out of proportion. It's not like it was the Dreamcast of this generation. I think the most unique games were likely indie games, and aside from PC the place that had the best collection of them was probably Xbox arcade, ironically the place that probably had the worst collection was Virtual Console.

I dont think the 360 gets enough credit for what it did for the indie market. Microsoft helped fund and promote some of the most popular indie games as well, but in these console comparisons that seems to usually be forgotten.

[Retrogamer0001]

You guys will argue about anything...

[ZeroAX]

You guys will argue about anything...

( and yes I don't mean those rolling eyes, it's just a joke)

[Hazerd]

We dont have to argue, just accept my opinion as the popular opinion

[TheBrick]

I'm surrounded by assholes!

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[RCBH928]

@ZeroAX

you make very good points but its not necessarly true. First , you dont need online gameplay so you can't factor it in the price. I own a 360 since 2006 and I only paid for online once . I care more about the single player and I will make a big guess that the majority of yhe 78m 360s sold are not yearly subscribers .

Second I doubt a PC will last as long as a console. People who bought a ps3 in 2006 still get to play gta5 full experience. I doubt people who bought a PC in that year still can run the latest games, unless its like in very low resolution.

As for game prices, I am not sure who buys new games when its prices would drop at least 20-30% in the first couple of months. Also if you are like me who is willing to complete the games he has on hands before buying new ones, a lot of time will pass and games will be much cheaper. I usually dont buy games over $20. There is also XBL and PSN which has great discounts on digital titles.

All 3 consoles enjoy unique games and the 360 and ps3 got no less than the Wii . some examples include Fat Princess, Puppeteer, Folklore, Catherine, Journey, heavy rain, and Flower.

Even though the Wii got weird/obscure/unique titles I think we should differntiate between enjoyable and just "different" . House of the Dead on the Dreamcast must be one of the weirdest games where you have to type to kill zombies, but not sure if many people praise the dreamcast for this title. So given that games like Elebits are unique, I really don't see people in 2020 buying a Wii to play it, but they might do to play Twilight Princess, No More Heroes, and The Last Story. Usually , retro gamers go back to play games that were a big hit when the console was current like FF on SNES, To,b Raider on PSX, and Panzer Dragoon on Saturn.

I want to clear out that I am not suggesting that the console or PC os better, just pointing out that they are different for many reasons, and to prove my point most people today own PCs in desktop or laptop form, but consoles sales are reaching new heights. This is the first generation where all competing consoles surpassed the 75m units sold. In earlier generations, selling 65m would have announced you the clear winner.

Connecting this back to topic, if the Wii has such a good library why are we seeing it phase out so quickly especially when its successor is not selling too well to call it a replacement.

[Damm64]

Connecting this back to topic, if the Wii has such a good library why are we seeing it phase out so quickly especially when its successor is not selling too well to call it a replacement.

That's how Nintendo logic works.

[Reprise]

Well no one is buying Wiis anymore and it has already been shown that despite the Wii shifting so many console numbers, unlike other consoles, Wii owners just weren't buying software in great numbers.

[mas]

Well no one is buying Wiis anymore and it has already been shown that despite the Wii shifting so many console numbers, unlike other consoles, Wii owners just weren't buying software in great numbers.

Gamestop is going to sell wii to powerup members for 39.99 on black Friday. Along with that and xenoblade and metroid prime trilogy I am certain people will buy a wii for that price. Hell i have a nice red one saved at my local gamestop waiting for black Friday.