Xbox One

[isiolia]

I don't know a lot about the hardware, but I do know this: Nintendo thought 3D gaming wouldn't take off and that's why they designed the N64 such the way that it is. If you ignore the middle prong, it's more or less a SNES controller again. If they designed the controller to fall back onto 2D games, then you'd assume they designed the console to fall back on 2D games as well.

Nintendo farmed out designing the N64 to Silicon Graphics, which was the big name in 3D rendering for movie effects and such at the time. Why go that route if they didn't really think 3D was the next thing? Seems more like they were banking on it.

[Jmustang1968]

...course I could just be talking out of my ass. Maybe someone who knows more about the hardware could explain it better

I don't know a lot about the hardware, but I do know this: Nintendo thought 3D gaming wouldn't take off and that's why they designed the N64 such the way that it is. If you ignore the middle prong, it's more or less a SNES controller again. If they designed the controller to fall back onto 2D games, then you'd assume they designed the console to fall back on 2D games as well.

I don't think it was a fall back design on the controller. I think it was more of taking an existing design and building on it to incorporate 3d games. Their big titles early on like super mario 64 and Starfox introduced big franchises to 3D. How could 3D not have been a focus?

[ZeroAX]

Nintendo farmed out designing the N64 to Silicon Graphics, which was the big name in 3D rendering for movie effects and such at the time. Why go that route if they didn't really think 3D was the next thing? Seems more like they were banking on it.

This is the same company that was calling the DS a "3rd pillar", not there to replace the Game Boy line but to "complement it".....so who know's what they're thinking

[AppleQueso]

The Ps1 was completely built for 3D as well, but that didn't stop there from being tons of 2D games on it.

[RCBH928]

I really want to see 2D on the 64 . Not sure why this console is viewed as unpopular . It was the second most popular console in the psx generation , I remember it was a big pop culture thing I think I even saw it on one of The Sopranos shows, and many games are viewed as childhood favorites like Mario 64, 007, and Ocarina, including that it was an extremely iconic console of the attitude era for wrestling fans with all its AKI wrestling games.

What do you mean Sega never gave them license? They never got to release the cartridges? Why would Sega refuse it, it won't hurt them.

[AppleQueso]

What do you mean Sega never gave them license? They never got to release the cartridges? Why would Sega refuse it, it won't hurt them.

They released carts, they just didn't have an official license. Nothing illegal about it, as the license was just for stuff like retailer agreements, manufacturing, lockout code, etc.

It's why Wisdom Tree, Tengen, Camerica, etc all got away with their unlicensed NES carts. They were never illegal to sell, you just needed Nintendo's license for their cartridges and lockout chips. (That and the fact that Nintendo would threaten to pull its stock from retailers who chose to carry unlicensed titles.)

Homebrewers straight up manufacture their own carts, and have their own workarounds for stuff like system lockouts (just like unlicensed games did.) That is what Pier Solar did.

[Pulsar_t]

http://www.destructoid.com/never-mind-m ... 3119.phtml

Microshaft inserts foot in mouth again. Not that it's going to matter to the average punk.

[Retrogamer0001]

I really want to see 2D on the 64 . Not sure why this console is viewed as unpopular . It was the second most popular console in the psx generation , I remember it was a big pop culture thing I think I even saw it on one of The Sopranos shows, and many games are viewed as childhood favorites like Mario 64, 007, and Ocarina, including that it was an extremely iconic console of the attitude era for wrestling fans with all its AKI wrestling games.

It's true that the console is very iconic, but I still think it's overshadowed by the PS1. I was in my early teens when the N64 was released and vividly remember playing Mario 64, Goldeneye, Mario Kart, Turok, and Duke Nukem (and later Ocarina) when they first came out, but given the fact that the library is small and quality titles are few and far between outside of first-party releases, I don't really see system ever achieving the cult status that the SNES or NES currently have. In my opinion, there aren't really that many games worth playing on the 64 - maybe thirty or forty, depending on your tastes.

[AppleQueso]

In my opinion, there aren't really that many games worth playing on the 64 - maybe thirty or forty, depending on your tastes.

30-40 games is still around 10 percent of the entire available library (around 300 games). I kinda feel that "10 percent of its library" tends to be a pretty good rule for collections in general I think. I mean, if you went with say, 80 NES games for your collection (out of around 800 games released total), you'd probably have a really solid library of titles that represents the system well.

I'm open to arguments to the contrary though.

[Jmustang1968]

In my opinion, there aren't really that many games worth playing on the 64 - maybe thirty or forty, depending on your tastes.

30-40 games is still around 10 percent of the entire available library (around 300 games). I kinda feel that "10 percent of its library" tends to be a pretty good rule for collections in general I think. I mean, if you went with say, 80 NES games for your collection (out of around 800 games released total), you'd probably have a really solid library of titles that represents the system well.

I'm open to arguments to the contrary though.

With how cheap and easily obtainable the console is, it would be worthwhile to own it with only 5-10 games.

Put in perspective of when it was the current gen, that may be different. I recall regreting getting it over the PS1. To my personal tastes, there were 3 good PS1 titles per N64. I can see how it really appealed to certain gamers' tastes though.