Why does stardom fade?

[ZenErik]

The only Jim Carrey movie I like is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Still a personal favorite of mine.

[fastbilly1]

Carrey's not a bad dramatic actor though. Seems like that ship sailed a long time ago unfortunately, but you never know...

Jim is a great comedic actor, not a bad dramatic actor, but not a good one. Had MAN ON THE MOON taken off, we'd see more of him in serious roles. He's a one trick pony in making money.

Guys like Bruce Willis can do comedy and action due to his polarity...Carrey doesn't have that. No one wants regular Jim, and DICK AND JANE highlighted that.

Man on the Moon was good, but The Majestic was fantastic. That was the one that really solidified Jim Carrey as a dramatic actor to me. But then again most people rail that movie.

[Jmustang1968]

Yeah overall I like Carrey but I don't like The Majestic or Eternal Sunshine.

[AppleQueso]

The Truman Show needs more love

[aaron]

do you guys remember that noiseredux fella? crash and burn, huh?

i liked him in "Game Boy Obsession" but i thought he really phoned it in on "I Love the Dreamcast Now." guess that's what drugs will do to you.

[BogusMeatFactory]

Carrey's not a bad dramatic actor though. Seems like that ship sailed a long time ago unfortunately, but you never know...

Jim is a great comedic actor, not a bad dramatic actor, but not a good one. Had MAN ON THE MOON taken off, we'd see more of him in serious roles. He's a one trick pony in making money.

Guys like Bruce Willis can do comedy and action due to his polarity...Carrey doesn't have that. No one wants regular Jim, and DICK AND JANE highlighted that.

I also think Jim Carrey burned a lot of bridges with his behavior. In films like the number 23 he was known for being a menace, going as far as urinating on the set. I really think he has some serious issues as a person, like his tweets after breaking up with Jenny McCarthy that were just awkward and uncomfortable.

I enjoy his work for the most part. Man on the Moon, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Ace Ventura etc. are all good movies from a wide variety of genres.

With Adam Sandler, he is just making money. He can make a film incredibly cheap and make a killing at the box office with it. Even if those films are the worst of the worst (Jack and Jill, I'm looking at you!), it is selling. Don't be mad at him, be mad at the people that pay to see the junk.

Also Adam Sandler is incredibly talented if he actually tries. Watching movies like Punch Drunk Love and Reign Over Me can show that he does have real range. Also, just watch Reign Over Me to see Shadow of the Colossus being played.

[Frag Mortuus]

I think an actor's relevance is determined by a few things.

1) Their ability to act. What I mean by that is if an actor is a success because they are able to play the role of the angry teenager rebelling against their parents when they are young, that's great. But, will they be able to play the PSTD war veteran, or the super hero, or the (insert role here). If they can't expand outside of the role that made them a star, they are destined to fade away. If there is a great example of someone growing out of a type cast to become a truly great actor it's Mark Whalberg. Someone that is the exact opposite is both Jim Carrey and Adam Sandler.

2) This ties in to my first point, but, the next thing is social interest and fads. If you are great at a certain type of role that is popular at the time then you can do well. Example, Corey Haim & Corey Feldman. They were awesome in the 80's. That was the decade of the Teen Comedy and the Coming of Age genres. Along with "The Brat Pack" and so on. These actors were great for that fad during the 80's but they weren't good at anything else. They made some classic films, but where unable to adapt once that fad in films was over.

3) Picking the right role. Sometimes you get great actors that for some reason, pick terrible roles. I think this may be the case with Nicholas Cage. He has some decent acting chops, but seems to pick terrible roles. I LOVE the National Treasure movies. I think they are really fun. But, then HATE the Ghost Rider films. If actor's can't gauge the quality of a role well enough and consistently picks bad movies, people will start assuming they are not a good actor. I mean, everyone can pick a bad film every once in a while. But, People will stop caring about you if you don't pick movies they want to watch. Even worse is after picking tons of bad movies, an actor can pick a good one, but if you already have that bad reputation, people will automatically dismiss the new movie. In turn, this means that studios will stop offering you good roles in fear of losing money on a project.

4) Over exposure. There was a time when I got excited about seeing Samuel L. Jackson in a movie. Now I can't stand it. He seems to be in every movie these days. When this happens people will stop caring as well.

These are just some of my opinions/theories.

[Luke]

The Truman Show needs more love

That movie is terrible.

And I'm not saying that because I watched it with my ex-girlfriend.


I'm lying.

[AppleQueso]

The Truman Show needs more love

That movie is terrible.

And I'm not saying that because I watched it with my ex-girlfriend.


I'm lying.

Which part are you lying about?

[RCBH928]

1) As for actors/musicians having a different era I just do not agree. Most of the examples I gave were top stars around 10-15 years ago. Thats not a different ERA . Most of the trilogies today take about 10 years to do. Thats like saying Daniel Radcliffe was a big star in The Sorcerer's Stone but by the time Deathly Hollows came along, no body cared for him. Its not just enough of a time difference. I can accept longer time periods like a big star in the 70's is no longer a big hit in the 2000s'. I also can ago agree if the actor has grown too old to take roles like he used to. For example Harrison Ford is 71 years old, I am not sure he can still do Indiana Jones. But even this is not totally true. A lot of the 70's stars are still big stars today like DeNiro, AlPacino, Duvall ..etc .

2)I was not exactly discussing if Ben Affleck was going down or up in his career, but I was trying to give examples. Maybe this particular actor is picking up again. I do not rate quality with the Oscars any more, I just can't put Argo and Slumdog millionaire with Gone With The Wind and The Godfather. I am sorry.

3) For people who are arguing that Adam Sandler is making money. There is a difference between making money and making quality . According to wikipedia, The Shawshank Redemption merely made profit , yet its ranked #1 in top 250 films on IMDB. Justin Bieber is probably making big bucks but I do not see people recognize him as an added talent to the music industry.


The fact that some actors/musicians were on top then faded away, while others continue on top over the decades of their career, makes me think that there is some sort of hollywood politics in the sense that if they like you they will shoot you to the stars, and if they started unlike you you will be a forgotten memory.

Of course, this is only my interpretation of the topic, it can be right or wrong.