Does us and europe still have diff video stardards these day

[holaback]

like pal and ntsc or it's pretty standardized these days?

[MrPopo]

I wouldn't imagine it would change, as there's such an entrenched market of both standards that one region couldn't just switch to the other. It'd make a ton of TVs stop working overnight.

[holaback]

What about 720P/i and 1080p/i stardard these days?

[ZenLogikos]

NTSC and PAL are ANALOG video standards, and yes, they remain the same as they always have been.

The change to DIGITAL has resulted in new standards being adopted in different regions, not necessarily the same regions corresponding to the ANALOG standards.

North America has adopted the ATSC standard, while most of the rest of the world, including Europe, has adoped DVB.

[MrPopo]

What about 720P/i and 1080p/i stardard these days?

Those aren't standards, so much as available resolutions at the same ratio. The TVs can accept the signal at that resolution and downcast/upcast it as necessary. The NTSC vs. PAL ends up being both different aspect ratios as well as different refresh rates.

[lordofduct]

@MrPopo - yes those are standars. 1080p isn't just a resolution, but a standard of a resolution. It is a member of the ATSC/DVB digital broadcasting standards. 1080p directly relates to a 16:9 1920x1080 resolution true, but there is more to it... as it is digital the 1080p standard describes the bandwidth gap, framerate, and all the good tasty info. Keep in mind also, 1080p has several subset members as well for different colour regions, like YUV and RGB.

@OP - NTSC and PAL are still widely used standards. I am not sure of the status on Europes digital transition, here in America the FreeToAir broadcasting is going to be converting very shortly (we only have a few more months) rendering FreeToAir NTSC null. The standard will still exist as a TV standard for backwards compatability... seeing as most analogue devices use it (video game consoles, DVD players, VCRs, cable boxes, etc). The NTSC standard is also part of the cable broadcasting system here in America and will stay there until the several different cable distributors fully upgrade to digital cable. Which will probably take some time because customers are fighting the idea a lot. A lot of customers don't like the idea that they will need to rent a box for every room in the house to get cable through out the house, analogue cable's greatest feature was there is no limit on the number of users in a household, digital cable on the other hand does. It's an outlet for cable distributors to overcharge customers. Bleh.

Anyways, the NTSC and PAL standards will most certainly exist and be a concern when utilizing any device that ONLY outputs these standards (anything older, like all our favourite retro consoles). But seeing as most devices now a days support the newer standards of HDTV, which is universal, it shouldn't be a bother.

Importing a Jap PS3 to Europe and using the HDMI cable shouldn't give you a hassle on compatability with viewing standards. Though they might give you a hassle on HDCP hand shakes... which is merely a digital rights protection algorithm. Though I haven't heard any complaints about this from most devices (except when playing HDCP encoded media on said devices like HD-DVDs on the 360 over HDMI, or Blu-Ray on the PS3 through HDMI).



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SO,

1080p and other HD standards are members of the ATSC and DVB standards. All nations will be following some subset of DVB, and to be considered DVB you have to maintain some form of support across the DVB members. ATSC and DVB standards are for the most part cross conformed, you may get a device with some setting choices that won't work across it, but because both allow a variety of settings, there should usually be some configuration to allow use.



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Oh and if your lucky enough to live in Europe, most television manufacturers have included PAL and NTSC modes in modern televisions there. Not all tvs, but it is very common to see there. Here in the US this isn't common, I find that BS, but we are weird here... we just have to be "special/different" or some crap.

I get really annoyed when I pull apart a TV that has an uncut hole for a SCART port but no SCART port... get inside and find out everything is there for the scart, all it needed was to have the wires connected and the port screwed to the chasity. What the hell!? I mean from a manufacturing standpoint I think of it like this:

there is a cost differential between the 4 cents a television to install the SCART port on all builds, and the cost to not. Not putting it in saves 4 cents, but requires an alteration in the manufacturing line... this comes to a lost in profit as well. The cost differential is most likely more affordable to just not stick it in, but when that differential is most likely with in 1 or 2 cents per TV, why not stick the damn thing in there for the large amount of videophiles out there that probably would appreciate the damn thing!?

[holaback]

Thanks for the explanation and having that little of alife ot type that all out. But no really thanks

[lordofduct]

I get that a lot, but really how long should that take? On other forums I meet people who think "I'm all worked up" or "angry" because I have long posts almost all the time. I mean really it only takes maybe a minute at max to type most of my posts. If I can't spare a minute, then what kind of life is that?

[holaback]

That that you 1 min to type!? I'd like to see your typing score!

[lordofduct]

well that's a bit of an exageration, but it didn't take me long at all. I do type very fast though, not sure my typing speed, but if I ignore grammar and spelling I can pump out a lot of text very quickly. Hence why most of my long posts are loaded with tons of grammatical mistakes.

I did take a typing test years back for an office job. And in it you got marked down for grammar or spelling mistakes, I scored 68 wpm on that at my best... that I do know.