Ahh yes you are correct.. MOBA is a fairly new genre afaik? It happens to be a sub of RTS but not exactly RTS.. For Dota, I could see more of the appeal. But why is LoL so popular?Violent By Design wrote:LoL isn't really an RTS, it is a Moba and there are multiple maps in League of Legends.EvilRyu2099 wrote:Two genres I don't "get" are RTS and music games.. Certain rhythm games appeal to me but most I just don't get.. And even though I have many friends that were/are into RTS, I just could never find a reason to pick one up.. LoL popularity is becoming ridiculous these days.. And they play the same map over and over correct?
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I guess the fact that you can become a millionaire by playing video games has something to do with it
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Lol I asked someone that same question earlier and that was pretty much the exact thing he said.. "Because you can win money from it!".. Why not just invest in bitcoins instead? Lol
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The only genres that I don't really mess with are Sports Games and Survival Horror. I never got into Sports of any form and I didn't like any of the Resident Evil games I played. I think I'd like to try some of the more arcadey Sports titles, though. I've also been meaning to delve into Horror as well. I just love the thought of being inside a Horror story, as opposed to watching or reading one. I don't think I really have much of a "comfort zone", just genres that I don't play much.
I have however, been playing some Puzzle Games and Racing Games. I tend to enjoy Puzzle Games but never seem to have time for them. The Puzzle Games I've been playing are Crayon Physics Deluxe and The Blocks that Matter. I'll just admit it right now: I sucked at Crayon Physics. I just never got the hang of it and mostly just YouTubed the solutions to the more challenging puzzles. Admittedly, I did take a break from the game for a while killing my momentum. The Blocks that Matter on the other hand, I beat without much trouble. I only looked up the solution to one puzzle. I really enjoyed this one. So much so that I actually played the bonus levels after I was finished with the main game.
The Racing Games I've played were FlatOut and the original Road Rash. FlatOut got to be too frustrating to me. I'd have one of the better cars with the best tires, but I'd still be sliding around everywhere. Eventually, I just put in the cheat code to unlock everything and only played the mini-games. That's the only part I really had any fond memories for. As for Road Rash, it's Road Rash! That's that needs to be said.
I have however, been playing some Puzzle Games and Racing Games. I tend to enjoy Puzzle Games but never seem to have time for them. The Puzzle Games I've been playing are Crayon Physics Deluxe and The Blocks that Matter. I'll just admit it right now: I sucked at Crayon Physics. I just never got the hang of it and mostly just YouTubed the solutions to the more challenging puzzles. Admittedly, I did take a break from the game for a while killing my momentum. The Blocks that Matter on the other hand, I beat without much trouble. I only looked up the solution to one puzzle. I really enjoyed this one. So much so that I actually played the bonus levels after I was finished with the main game.
The Racing Games I've played were FlatOut and the original Road Rash. FlatOut got to be too frustrating to me. I'd have one of the better cars with the best tires, but I'd still be sliding around everywhere. Eventually, I just put in the cheat code to unlock everything and only played the mini-games. That's the only part I really had any fond memories for. As for Road Rash, it's Road Rash! That's that needs to be said.
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Why Dota and not LoL? Based on what you said you seem to not really like the one map thing, Dota only has one map. LoL has a few and game modes.EvilRyu2099 wrote:Ahh yes you are correct.. MOBA is a fairly new genre afaik? It happens to be a sub of RTS but not exactly RTS.. For Dota, I could see more of the appeal. But why is LoL so popular?Violent By Design wrote:LoL isn't really an RTS, it is a Moba and there are multiple maps in League of Legends.EvilRyu2099 wrote:Two genres I don't "get" are RTS and music games.. Certain rhythm games appeal to me but most I just don't get.. And even though I have many friends that were/are into RTS, I just could never find a reason to pick one up.. LoL popularity is becoming ridiculous these days.. And they play the same map over and over correct?
As for why LoL is more popular, it is generally more accessible in terms of learning curve, has more champs and has been out longer than Dota 2.
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I am gonna have to say that the only real similarity between RTS and Fighting games is that you are playing another person and have to react to their actions. With RTS you have to sit there and multi-task and think multiple steps ahead of time in the process of multi-tasking. The people who play those games are seriously gifted, as I have no idea how they do it.Menegrothx wrote:RTSs are like fighting games. You need to be able to think and act at the same time. Though playing a RTS games single player campaign is far less demanding than playing against another human being
With fighting games, it is still reaction, but doesn't require the multi-tasking. You just need to know when there are openings and take advantage of it.
For those that really want to get into them, find a person who will play with you. You need a friend in the mix to train and take it seriously, it improves the fun immensely.
It does take time and it does take patience, but I really find RTS games to be a lot more demanding.
....I still love fighting games more though
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Sorry I meant Dota 2, Dota was mainly a mod...
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Yeah, the strategy involved in high end fighting games vs competitive RTS is different. You're building stuff, scouting, managing resources and what not in RTS where as in fighting games you only focus on one unit, your enemy. Except in fighting games that use different kind of gauges for special attacks and defense moves I guess. But what's common in both is that you need to be able to see tactical opportunities and situations and react at lightning speed, but obviously the way the games play out is drastically different. In fighting games you need to know all different kind of combos you can do and in what situations to use the said combos, how to counter them etc, where as individual units in RTS have simplistic functions, but you manage many at a time.BogusMeatFactory wrote:I am gonna have to say that the only real similarity between RTS and Fighting games is that you are playing another person and have to react to their actions. With RTS you have to sit there and multi-task and think multiple steps ahead of time in the process of multi-tasking. The people who play those games are seriously gifted, as I have no idea how they do it.Menegrothx wrote:RTSs are like fighting games. You need to be able to think and act at the same time. Though playing a RTS games single player campaign is far less demanding than playing against another human being
With fighting games, it is still reaction, but doesn't require the multi-tasking. You just need to know when there are openings and take advantage of it.
For those that really want to get into them, find a person who will play with you. You need a friend in the mix to train and take it seriously, it improves the fun immensely.
It does take time and it does take patience, but I really find RTS games to be a lot more demanding.
....I still love fighting games more though
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I think the big barrier for a lot of players of fighting games is the execution.. After that comes frame data and knowing when to punish said frame data.. That's basically the gist of everything... You always have certain mechanics and shortcuts you can implement to get the edge as well.. Fighting games, FPS and RTS are among the hardest games to play competitively imho..
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Unless I'm missing something, those are the only genres that are played competitively 
There's WoW arena (MMORPG), but I can't think of any other games that are played professionally (I count MOBA in the RTS group in this case)
There's WoW arena (MMORPG), but I can't think of any other games that are played professionally (I count MOBA in the RTS group in this case)
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