Dragon's Crown

[dsheinem]

Wow, surprised to see so much hate on the game here.

This game is pretty much exactly what a site like this is all about.

It's a retro game? Oh, no it isn't. This site is "about" retro games.

For a site that lavishes so much praise towards Guardian Heroes to crap all over this game is more than a little strange.

Guardian Heroes is an arcade style game that can be finished in under an hour. Dragon's Crown takes some of those same basic gameplay elements and tries to stretch it into 20. It's not surprising that people find it repetitive/tedious/repetitious after a certain point, as that isn't what the genre is designed to do.

Oh wow, you really detest the game that much?

So much that you refuse to recognize that this game was the originally intended follow-up to Princess Crown, a game which this site has no shortage of praises for?

You refuse to recognize that this game has many of the same staff that worked on Capcom's Dungeons and Dragons series, which always seems to appear anytime someone asks people to list their top five beat em ups?

How about the fact that this is a retail release (remember how much you guys love those?) of a beat 'em up (remember how much you guys love those?)/dungeon crawler (remember how much you guys love those?)? How many times have you seen a 2D beat 'em up OR a dungeon crawler get a retail release on the PS3?

I mean, c'mon. There's a ton of games that I hate or have no interest in, but can still understand why they would be of interest to this site.

You said "pretty much exactly what a site like this is all about". The site is about retro games. Of course we discuss modern stuff (especially retro-style modern stuff), but this game - which is a new 2013 game - isn't what the site is "pretty much exactly about".

So semantics, I guess.

I don't detest the game at all. I haven't played it and there were enough negatives I read before release (and since in this thread) to make me not be very interested in doing so. Even if it has a Guardian Heroes vibe, the length alone means it isn't really like that game or like Capcom's D&D titles, all of which were arcade-style and designed to be completed in short sittings and, if desired, credit-fed.

[fastbilly1]

So how does it play with a stick?

[isiolia]

So how does it play with a stick?

I imagine it would be fairly difficult, considering you need to use the right analog stick to move the cursor to click on things, and the d-pad to select items and such.

[MrPopo]

The account system is one of the biggest problems for me. If you play online all the time, fine. Then there is no issue. But if you are like me and hang out with friends' on weekends then it's a massive letdown.

What are you doing wasting your time with friends? They get in the way of an X3: Terran Conflict marathon.

So how does it play with a stick?

The game's really designed for the controller. The face buttons are attack, special attack, jump, and something else (man, it's been weeks since I've played), then the shoulder buttons add dodge and something else, and the d-pad is used to select/use items and the right stick is for moving the mouse cursor.

[fastbilly1]

Hmm my desire for it just went down alittle. After beating Guardian Heroes, Princess Crown, and Muramasa, with a stick. Well this kind of game just feels best to me with one. Its still my second most wanted PS3 game, after 3d Dot Heroes ofcourse.

[noiseredux]

Hmm my desire for it just went down alittle. After beating Guardian Heroes, Princess Crown, and Muramasa, with a stick. Well this kind of game just feels best to me with one. Its still my second most wanted PS3 game, after 3d Dot Heroes ofcourse.

you should get 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's cheap and it will make you a happy person.

[fastbilly1]

Hmm my desire for it just went down alittle. After beating Guardian Heroes, Princess Crown, and Muramasa, with a stick. Well this kind of game just feels best to me with one. Its still my second most wanted PS3 game, after 3d Dot Heroes ofcourse.

you should get 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's cheap and it will make you a happy person.

First the PS3, then game.

[the7k]

All I know is, when compared with Scott Pilgrim vs The World and Castle Crashers, the only other modern retro beat 'em ups out there that I can think of, this game is superior in some important ways. And keep in mind, I've played the hell out of both of them and would play them again, but DC is better to me.

Each of the characters are actually unique from each other and have their own unique attacks and special abilities, unlike Castle Crashers where each character is only visually different in their attacks while all serving the same purpose (outside of the King who has the only healing ability). Sure you can 'build them' differently by focusing on attack or magic or speed, etc., but you can build an Elf that focuses on archery while building another Elf that focuses on daggers/backstabbing in DC. If you build an Orange Knight that focuses on Magic while building an Industrialist that focuses on Magic in Castle Crashers, they will play exactly the same.

Also, the game was built with a leveling system in mind and doesn't feel gimped by its inclusion, unlike Scott Pilgrim where you have to level just to get basic abilities, yet once you've reached Lv16 it becomes completely impossible to revisit early stages and get any sort of fun out of them because you are so vastly overpowered in relation to your competition.

People here seem to be criticizing the game for repetitiveness and lack of replayability, but I'd say a game with 30 characters that all play exactly the same has a much bigger issue with repetitiveness, and a game where you literally cannot go back to any stage outside of the last two because you are so OP has a much bigger issue with replayability.

[ZenErik]

That's nice and all... But they've made better games in the past. And the other two games you mentioned cost what.. 1/5 of the price? And aren't new. I would rather compare my experience from other Vanillaware games to this one.

And as I've said before. Looking forward to their next work. This was Vanillaware's first attempt at multiplayer. They needed to have a system where it was possible for people to bring their character over to a friend's PS3 for local multi. They didn't do it.

Next time.

That rips out most of the fun of multi for me. And as a single player game it offers a good deal of fun. But nothing good w/ story and characters. They regressed from previous games here. It doesn't keep me interested when I'm not playing with friends.

[the7k]

Eh, whatever. This game is one of the few that made me think "Maybe this generation wasn't such a waste after all," but if you guys don't like it I'll just let it be. Won't stop me from scratching my head in utter confusion, but whatever.

Just disappointed because I'd figure I'd come in here and everybody would be exchanging PSN ids so we could all go raid some dungeons together. Didn't expect it to be a bunch of nitpicks.