Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?

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Gunstar Green wrote:Well in turn I take issue with what you said. :lol:

Fusion and Zero Mission are fantastic games that often get criticism simply for not doing things exactly like Super Metroid did them.

Fusion may have done some things differently but it still did those things really damn well. It's one of the best games in the GBA's library. Nintendo rarely has the balls to experiment with their IPs like that these days, especially with main entries to a series. Fusion was both something new and something familiar and I love it for that.

Complaints lead to Zero Mission which I still like but I felt was sort of a step back and not very ambitious.

I guess this is my unpopular opinion, then. I didn't care for Fusion at all. I disliked it from the very start. Everything about it screamed "watered-down, hand-holding crap" from the get go. It is my very least favorite 2D Metroid, despite the almost near universal praise (outside us Metroid/Super Metroid purists).

prfsnl_gmr wrote:Since it seems that we are heading in that direction...

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I only played Metroid Prime for an hour or 2 and was fairly bored with it. Do you actually have to keep scanning rooms for the rest of the game like that?
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Violent By Design wrote:I only played Metroid Prime for an hour or 2 and was fairly bored with it. Do you actually have to keep scanning rooms for the rest of the game like that?


The vast majority of the scanning you do is optional. Pretty much if it's not a switch or terminal of some sort (basically a red icon), you don't actually need to scan it.

Hell the entire game's backstory is revealed through logs and such that you find via scans, and you aren't required to actually find any of them to beat the game.
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Gunstar Green wrote:My least favorite part of the original Prime was the temple key fetch-quest at the end and that's what the entirety of Prime 2 feels like.


Indeed, once I realized I would need to find 9 hidden Sky Temple Keys guarded by 9 invisible monsters throughout the huge world, I turned the game off and said, "Yeah, we're done here." And that was after finding numerous other temple keys beforehand. Seriously I think the big tell is that Iwata himself decided to co-direct Prime 3 (along with Pacini of course), he obviously knew things had come off the rails a bit with the previous game. I will say Prime 2 had amazing graphics / art direction / nice OST, I'll give it that.

Do you actually have to keep scanning rooms for the rest of the game like that?


If you think that's bad, Prime 2 takes the whole "scan everything" aspect into an exponentially irritating degree. Most of the scanning is optional though, that is true.
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Prime 1's artifact hunt at the end is aggravating because of how unnecessary it is. It's clearly meant to pad out the game, but the thing is, the game didn't need any padding. It was perfectly acceptable length wise by the time you reach the point where you have to do the artifact hunt.

It's pretty much the same case as Wind Waker's triforce piece hunt.
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AppleQueso wrote:Prime 1's artifact hunt at the end is aggravating because of how unnecessary it is. It's clearly meant to pad out the game, but the thing is, the game didn't need any padding. It was perfectly acceptable length wise by the time you reach the point where you have to do the artifact hunt.

It's pretty much the same case as Wind Waker's triforce piece hunt.



It's worse than Wind Wakers triforce piece hunt imo. The Triforce hunt is obviously overly padded, but seems like it was made to make you explore the whole of the great sea - up until that point the game had clearly told you where to go next, and if you'd been doing so you would have barely seen anything. It encourages you to go explore for maps, money to decipher them and obviously the triforce pieces too. As you do so you'll also probably find some other cool stuff like the great fairies, battle reefs or giant octos and get item upgrades and heart pieces.

You could argue that that's what making you explore in Metroid Prime does too, but I don't buy it. If you've been playing Prime properly up to that point you should have been retracing your steps and exploring side routes constantly anyway, so making you go around the world again doesn't add anything much.
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I think I can agree with that. Probably also helps that Wind Waker's giant sea is a lot easier to navigate than Metroid Prime's interconnected cave mazes.
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Jmustang1968 wrote:
TheGregzilla wrote:Lol. Well as far as how the systems look, I think most of them are starting to look exactly the same anyways. Gone are the days of different color schemes and shapes and such. Now systems are a black box and thats just the way it is.


There are several system variants for the new stuff... more so than before for all except the N64.



true, But I was referring more to the base model systems. PS4 and XboxOne are both plain looking black rectangles. Ps3 originally came out as a plain black curved rectangle. 360 was a white..'rectangle-ish' shape, that turned into a black smaller 'rectangle-ish' shape. The Wii was a white rectangle, with a black model that came out later (and a few other colors that aren't as common.) The WiiU same thing- White box, or Black box.



EDIT: and my take on the Metroid situation is-- I never liked any of them...but to be fair, I never gave most of them a fair chance. Ive never beaten one fully, I got frustrated and quit after about a half hour. I was actually planning to play through them and see if my opinion changes, but for now, I just don't care for the open-ness of it all. I actually wish it was a little more linear.
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TheGregzilla wrote:I actually wish it was a little more linear.

Metroid Fusion then.
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I'll have to check it out. Tried out the first Metroid today and jeezus some of those rooms are frustrating as hell. Its like you have no choice but to get hit sometimes.
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