Xenoblade Chronicles out of print?

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ZeroAX wrote:I never understood the logic behind it, specially from a consumer's point of view.

GS's logic is that if the case on the shelf doesn't have the game, you can't steal anything but the case and manual, since the disc is the behind the counter locked away. However this gives GS the covert advantage of knowing if the game is actually new or used and selling it however they see fit. I've never liked this. And I always had a problem with buying a "new" game already opened, even from GS. I've only done it one time because I wanted Odin Sphere ASAP, so I bought it from a brick'n'mortar as opposed to online as usual. However that was an isolated incident personally speaking and never repeated.
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Exhuminator wrote:However that was an isolated incident personally speaking and never repeated.


You are allowed youthful indiscretions. We will never speak of it again. :lol:
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Exhuminator wrote:GS's logic is that if the case on the shelf doesn't have the game, you can't steal anything but the case and manual, since the disc is the behind the counter locked away. However this gives GS the covert advantage of knowing if the game is actually new or used and selling it however they see fit. I've never liked this. And I always had a problem with buying a "new" game already opened, even from GS. I've only done it one time because I wanted Odin Sphere ASAP, so I bought it from a brick'n'mortar as opposed to online as usual. However that was an isolated incident personally speaking and never repeated.


Nope that's not it

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see? there's a solution for that. And that also can't be the reason cause then Gamestop would not be doing something evil.

No what I think is their true objective, is to make new games barely have any extra value over used ones. Apparently I've been told online that used games are only sold for 5$ less than new ones right? Well I think most people buying a gift, or hardcore gamers would prefer to pay the extra 5$ if it was sealed (specially when it comes to gifts).

But then they'd lose all the extra revenue, so instead they do this.

No what I trully don't understand is why you guys put up with it. When I lived in the states in the 90s I remember you Americans being really passionate about your rights as consumers. But policies like this being succesful make me think the population has become dumb consumers in the past 15 years (wow it's been that long since I left xD).

I would never support gamestop. I once bought a game from HMV when I was in London and I went crazy when I saw that they had opened the case. Of course I bought it, but I would never buy from there again. But every other country I've been to in Europe doesn't have this shitty policy and instead all games are in their original packaging unopened.
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ZeroAX wrote:you Americans


I think you're making some broad generalizations lumping the entire populace into one perceived hivemind of purchasing habits.

Anyway, as far as an easy GS solution, they could do what Toys R Us used to do (or maybe still does, it's been decades since I was in that store). Back in the day at Toys R Us you saw the game's case on a shelf with slips of paper beneath it. Then you took one of those slips of paper up to the counter and the salesperson used it to find the game in storage behind the counter. Thus when you were handed your game it was still brand new and sealed. No need for your special plastic security cases in that system.

Then again with that old Toys R Us system, you can't scam your consumer into buying "new" games that are actually used and vice versa, hence GS doesn't use it. :lol:

what I think is their true objective, is to make new games barely have any extra value over used ones.


Well that might work against people who only buy games from GS, totally ignoring the far superior online market.
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Exhuminator wrote:
ZeroAX wrote:you Americans


I think you're making some broad generalizations lumping the entire populace into one perceived hivemind of purchasing habits.

Anyway, as far as an easy GS solution, they could do what Toys R Us used to do (or maybe still does, it's been decades since I was in that store). Back in the day at Toys R Us you saw the game's case on a shelf with slips of paper beneath it. Then you took one of those slips of paper up to the counter and the salesperson used it to find the game in storage behind the counter. Thus when you were handed your game it was still brand new and sealed. No need for your special plastic security cases in that system.

Then again with that old Toys R Us system, you can't scam your consumer into buying "new" games that are actually used and vice versa, hence GS doesn't use it. :lol:



usually people don't mind generalizations when they are good :lol:

hm, I remember the games being locked in something like lockers and in front of them they had plastic cases with printouts of the game's cover and backcover for you to browse and when you wanted to buy something you just called an employee over and he opened the "locker" to get the game for you. It's not like that anymore?
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Exhuminator wrote:
ZeroAX wrote:you Americans


I think you're making some broad generalizations lumping the entire populace into one perceived hivemind of purchasing habits.

Anyway, as far as an easy GS solution, they could do what Toys R Us used to do (or maybe still does, it's been decades since I was in that store). Back in the day at Toys R Us you saw the game's case on a shelf with slips of paper beneath it. Then you took one of those slips of paper up to the counter and the salesperson used it to find the game in storage behind the counter. Thus when you were handed your game it was still brand new and sealed. No need for your special plastic security cases in that system.

Then again with that old Toys R Us system, you can't scam your consumer into buying "new" games that are actually used and vice versa, hence GS doesn't use it. :lol:

what I think is their true objective, is to make new games barely have any extra value over used ones.


Well that might work against people who only buy games from GS, totally ignoring the far superior online market.


They don't do it that way because you would go in and all you would see are slips of paper. They want to entice people with thr case art and displag
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ZeroAX wrote:I still can't believe you guys and the British are so.....well sorry, but stupid as consumers, as to accept a policy where the store can take off the wrap from a new game. I never understood the logic behind it, specially from a consumer's point of view.


Every game I've bought new, as far as I remember, has been sealed... (I'm from the UK by the way).
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Reprise wrote:Every game I've bought new, as far as I remember, has been sealed... (I'm from the UK by the way).


So it's only an HMV policy then to take the box to the counter and have the disk inserted then?
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ZeroAX wrote:
Reprise wrote:Every game I've bought new, as far as I remember, has been sealed... (I'm from the UK by the way).


So it's only an HMV policy then to take the box to the counter and have the disk inserted then?


Yes. I just re-read your post above and was about to edit my post. HMV do indeed do that. At least sometimes. I'm not sure why, but they're fairly inconsistent with it, as I bought Max Payne 3 from HMV and it was sealed. Otherwise, I don't tend to buy new games from HMV as they're rarely any cheaper and I'd prefer a sealed copy.
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Jmustang1968 wrote:They don't do it that way because you would go in and all you would see are slips of paper. They want to entice people with thr case art and displag


The system I'm referring to had the case on a shelf along with other game cases. The slips of paper were beneath their respective cases. So you could indeed pick up the game's actual case and look at it as normal. I'm guessing the only problem with this system is that its prone to vandalism. Perhaps that's why it's not a common system anymore.

That said, Walmart is certainly at least a close second place in game retail to GS. And they don't have to use already opened cases to sell new games. There's certainly other ways to sell said new games then the way GS does it. Which is why I'm convinced GS's method is nefarious in nature.
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