Wii-U thoughts so far

[ZeroAX]

Saying smartphone gaming will replace handheld gaming is like saying the smartphone camera will replace these



Now these:



Yes they are going the way of the dodo because of cellphone cameras.


But the thing is, on my trips at first I was happy to use a cheap camera or my cell phone camera to take pictures. But the more I get into photography and the more trips I go to, the more I want a SLR camera to be able to take decent pictures. They cost more but they are worth the investment for someone who wants more, like me.

So imo once people who get addicted to getting a small gaming fix on their smartphones, will probably want something more. And they can find that more on the 3DS.

What we won't see again, are the days where crappy cheap to make software sells full price like those sudoku games on the DS. If the developers want the money and attention of consumers then they must make games that are worth their money.

And imo the 3DS is delivering on that part.

[MrPopo]

Smartphone cameras are getting pretty badass. Have you seen the camera on the Nokia Lumia 1020?

[AppleQueso]

Smartphone cameras are getting pretty badass. Have you seen the camera on the Nokia Lumia 1020?

They aren't DSLR badass. There's a reason these cameras cost as much (if not quite a bit more) as an entire smartphone itself.

[samsonlonghair]

The quality of a camera cannot be measured in megapixels.

[Hobie-wan]

The quality of a camera cannot be measured in megapixels.

Next you'll be telling me that the number of bits in my system don't affect the quality of the games.

[RCBH928]

@Valkyrie-Favor

The average consumer is the casual gamer, not as in "casual games" like angry birds, but the guy who play games in his spare time for fun. People like us who hoard consoles, games, and spend time on the internet discussing gaming history are not "average" . We are average consumers in other area markets too. Some people will always buy printed books, even though a digital copy will cost probably less and has the convenient of being in your device, and no need for a bookshelf. Others will never let go of wrist watch, I don't even wear a watch. Average are the non-hobbyists , non-dedicated consumer, they are every one out there with enough money to lure them into buying your product

@MyNameisVince

I find it ironic that you want to save $30 of internet service for your smart phone, but you do not mind paying same price for each new DS game. Even used DS games are more expensive than the games on iOS store.

@RyanTheSlaya @ZeroAX

I am not sure if you own an iOS device or a smart phone, but things are way far from "angry birds" kind of games. There is Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Deus Ex, Marvel VS Capcom 2 , MegaMan X, Street Fighter vs Tekken, Minecraft, Sonic CD, Crazy Taxi, Football Manager, Jet Set Radio. Things have changed way too much since "Angry Birds" were the only kind of games to play on an iphone.

Last I checked the iphone is much more capable with more features than the Nintendo DS. The only thing I will give an advantage to the DS is the buttons and analogue controller and as I said, its not enough reason for non-dedicated gamers to make the $180 investment. Can you imagine nintendo putting an ad on tv saying "buy our device, it has buttons?" . Any way, as soon as some one comes up with a reliable case for the iphone(or another smartphone) the DS will lose its last advantage.

ZeroAX , i get exactly what you are saying but the way I see it is that the iphone is the SLR camera here:
-It has more featuress
-its more expensive
-I believe it has a bigger gaming library
-It more capable spec wise
-Even in color the iphone is black and the DS is the one colorful with pinks and purples(non-relevant to discussion)

[RyaNtheSlayA]

@MyNameisVince

I find it ironic that you want to save $30 of internet service for your smart phone, but you do not mind paying same price for each new DS game. Even used DS games are more expensive than the games on iOS store.

And you're saying most of those iOS games are comparable to things like Fire Emblem?

@RyanTheSlaya

I am not sure if you own an iOS device or a smart phone, but things are way far from "angry birds" kind of games. There is Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Deus Ex, Marvel VS Capcom 2 , MegaMan X, Street Fighter vs Tekken, Minecraft, Sonic CD, Crazy Taxi, Football Manager, Jet Set Radio. Things have changed way too much since "Angry Birds" were the only kind of games to play on an iphone.

I'm not saying those are the only kinds of games on iOS devices. I'm saying they're the only ones that smartphones are good for. (Yes I own a Windows phone with plenty of games).

Know what the problem is with those titles on smartphones? They play like shit.

And no, no case is going to solve that problem. Until Apple or some company bundles one with the phone, developer support will be spotty for controller cases. There are already tons of decent ones on the market. They all only work with a few games. And it will stay that way. Sony tried at making a smartphone with a dedicated controller and that failed too for the record (Xperia Play).

Last I checked the iphone is much more capable with more features than the Nintendo DS. The only thing I will give an advantage to the DS is the buttons and analogue controller and as I said, its not enough reason for non-dedicated gamers to make the $180 investment. Can you imagine nintendo putting an ad on tv saying "buy our device, it has buttons?" . Any way, as soon as some one comes up with a reliable case for the iphone(or another smartphone) the DS will lose its last advantage.

Again, this is the point I'm trying to make that has gone over your head. The market for the 3DS hasn't shrunk. The market for consoles hasn't shrunk. The casual market has just gotten larger. The 3DS, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3 are still selling like hot-cakes. Pre-orders for the first batch of PS4 and XBO have sold out.

[CavZee]

If someone just wants a way to kill time with a quick simple game, the mobile stuff is right up their alley. You have to consider that those same people would probably never consider a handheld gaming device to begin with. There's two different crowds we're talking about here. While there's certainly some crossover between the two, I don't see how handhelds will get completely replaced. They'll coexist.

Anyway, we're kind've off topic so I'll switch gears for us. What Wii U games are you guys buying this fall?

[jay_red]

Well I am very much excited for the Wonderful 101, have been since before I bought the console at launch. It just sucks that we have had to wait this long for it, but hopefully it kicks ass! I am slightly interested in pikmin 3, but not enough to grab it at launch, I might wait and see if i can snag it down the road. As for Rayman, its a shame Ubisoft delayed it so long ( I understand it was to port it) but it went from a day 1 purchase to not even on my radar anymore, especially since it is coming out around the same time as GTA V.

I have been playing Earthbound this weekend for the first time, and I am really enjoying it, though the game is tough as nails so far, I was getting stomped by the rats in the first cave for a while!

[CavZee]

EarthBound seems to get easier as you progress and get more party members. At least it's felt that way for me so far.

Super Luigi U
The Wonderful 101
Wind Waker HD
Arkham Origins
Sonic Lost World
DKC Tropical Freeze
Those are all definite purchases for me. I'm quite interested in many others but they'll have to wait a while.