Any consoles that look good on HDTV through Composite?

[Ziggy]

All the comments in this thread so far just proves that this is correct:

Ideed, it depends quite a bit on the TV and how it upscales things. Some do a good job, some are terrible, and some introduce a lot of lag which can make games unplayable.

To the question, "Any consoles that look good on HDTV through Composite?" There is no definitive answer. The same console, via composite, will look amazing on one TV, completely unplayable on another, and everything in between.

[theclaw]

composite on HDTV looks perfectly fine in most cases

This has not been my experience at all.

Composite from gaming consoles looks so awful on a HDTV that I have a 36" CRT just for my retro machines.

Composite at 36"? As much as improvement as you say, I don't see it being near ideal.

[BitFaced]

To further iterate this question, do Plug n Plays look good on HD TV through Composite generally, or do you need a SLG 3000 and linedoubler, which would really take the "Plug n Play" out of it. If it is just "Plug n Play" it should look good generally.

[AppleQueso]

To further iterate this question, do Plug n Plays look good on HD TV through Composite generally, or do you need a SLG 3000 and linedoubler, which would really take the "Plug n Play" out of it. If it is just "Plug n Play" it should look good generally.

Again, depends entirely on the TV whether it'd look acceptable. Plug and Plays are designed to be cheap, not to look great.

You'd need way more than a linedoubler to use the SLG3000 with composite. You'd need a transcoder that would convert the signal to 640x480 VGA, and most of the super cheap ones do a prett poor job of it in my experience. A linedoubler alone will only work with an RGB signal.

[BitFaced]

To further iterate this question, do Plug n Plays look good on HD TV through Composite generally, or do you need a SLG 3000 and linedoubler, which would really take the "Plug n Play" out of it. If it is just "Plug n Play" it should look good generally.

Again, depends entirely on the TV whether it'd look acceptable. Plug and Plays are designed to be cheap, not to look great.

You'd need way more than a linedoubler to use the SLG3000 with composite. You'd need a transcoder that would convert the signal to 640x480 VGA, and most of the super cheap ones do a prett poor job of it in my experience. A linedoubler alone will only work with an RGB signal.

Can't you just use a iScan Pro?

[AppleQueso]

To further iterate this question, do Plug n Plays look good on HD TV through Composite generally, or do you need a SLG 3000 and linedoubler, which would really take the "Plug n Play" out of it. If it is just "Plug n Play" it should look good generally.

Again, depends entirely on the TV whether it'd look acceptable. Plug and Plays are designed to be cheap, not to look great.

You'd need way more than a linedoubler to use the SLG3000 with composite. You'd need a transcoder that would convert the signal to 640x480 VGA, and most of the super cheap ones do a prett poor job of it in my experience. A linedoubler alone will only work with an RGB signal.

Can't you just use a iScan Pro?

Oh yes, definitely. Do you have one of those? Fudoh praises that model on that huge scaler page he's got. It's somewhere in here, you'll probably have to ctrl+f search for the model.
http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

Assuming your TV has a VGA input, you can just slap an SLG3000 right on that thing and you'll have a pretty ace setup for HDTV gaming.

According to that page, the comb filter on the iScan Pro is mediocre, but if you're planning to throw an SLG3000 on it anyway that probably won't be a huge issue, as scanlines do a nice job at helping to make some of the issues with composite. It's not a miracle worker (scanlined RGB will still look far better for example) but if it's anything like the XRGB-mini, the scanlines should make the composite stuff look plenty acceptable, about what you'd see via composite on your average CRT.

[BitFaced]

Oh yes, definitely. Do you have one of those? Fudoh praises that model on that huge scaler page he's got. It's somewhere in here, you'll probably have to ctrl+f search for the model.
http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

Assuming your TV has a VGA input, you can just slap an SLG3000 right on that thing and you'll have a pretty ace setup for HDTV gaming.

According to that page, the comb filter on the iScan Pro is mediocre, but if you're planning to throw an SLG3000 on it anyway that probably won't be a huge issue, as scanlines do a nice job at helping to make some of the issues with composite. It's not a miracle worker (scanlined RGB will still look far better for example) but if it's anything like the XRGB-mini, the scanlines should make the composite stuff look plenty acceptable, about what you'd see via composite on your average CRT.

Sounds promising. It's just whether Composite looks okay on the HD TV without scanlines, so I could do without the SLG 3000/iScan Pro and just plug everything into the appropriate sockets into the HD TV (except for RGB SCART and possibly S-Video but that's another story). But PS1 Composite SCART does look pretty damn terrible on it so probably.
Though I would also have to include a GBS-8200 (hopefully modded for RGB SCART, so I don't have to use a Sync Strike) and then a VGA Switcher.

EDIT: Can I just use a Mini SLG...

http://craftymech.com/mini-slg/

...instead of a SLG 3000?

Oh, and ironically enough, the article calls the iScan Pro a Plug'n'play unit.

[BitFaced]

Where can I buy a DVDO iScan Pro? I haven't seen them on eBay recently.