Your game of this gen.....

[brunoafh]

The post apocalyptic setting is probably my favorite setting in any fiction. But I found Fallout 3 to look insufferably dull. I don't think it has anything to do with the setting though, it's just the fact that damn near everything is the same. Literally the entire outdoor map is probably a few dozen dirt textures and patches of trees. I know I'm oversimplifying it, but honestly, not by very much. The original games were able to work with this by having fun gameplay and extremely memorable writing. Fallout 3 has neither of those.

Consider the source though, as this is the norm for all Bethesda games. Create the illusion you are in this massive and vast world, when really you're just wandering around in a sea of brainless copy/paste areas populated by NPCs voiced by the same 5-10 people.

[Menegrothx]

Consider the source though, as this is the norm for all Bethesda games. Create the illusion you are in this massive and vast world, when really you're just wandering around in a sea of brainless copy/paste areas populated by NPCs voiced by the same 5-10 people.

I wonder what Elder Scrolls Daggerfall is like, considering it's from 1996 (more crude graphics) and it has a game world 3900 times the size of Oblivion. In fact according to Wikipedia, Daggerfall's game world is 188,000 square miles (=11750 times bigger than Oblivion). Fallout 3 is around the same size or smaller than Oblivion as far as I know.

[Violent By Design]

Consider the source though, as this is the norm for all Bethesda games. Create the illusion you are in this massive and vast world, when really you're just wandering around in a sea of brainless copy/paste areas populated by NPCs voiced by the same 5-10 people.

I really have to go out of my way to try those type of games, because you described exactly what I think those games are.

People go on about how awesome a game like Skyrim is (I haven't personally played it), and they'll use size as a crutch. I don't see the appeal of a game being huge and long if it's literally just c/ping over and over again, it really is just an illusion.

[Forlorn Drifter]

Consider the source though, as this is the norm for all Bethesda games. Create the illusion you are in this massive and vast world, when really you're just wandering around in a sea of brainless copy/paste areas populated by NPCs voiced by the same 5-10 people.

I really have to go out of my way to try those type of games, because you described exactly what I think those games are.

People go on about how awesome a game like Skyrim is (I haven't personally played it), and they'll use size as a crutch. I don't see the appeal of a game being huge and long if it's literally just c/ping over and over again, it really is just an illusion.

I know that when I played them a lot of people riffed on me for fast traveling, but then again, all that walking to get to a cave with identical design to the one you just got out of seemed pointless to me. Boring.

Still interested in New Vegas. Might pick it up when I can.

Also, I'll throw up EDF 2017 for another game of this gen. For a budget title, its freaking amazing.

[BurningDoom]

Consider the source though, as this is the norm for all Bethesda games. Create the illusion you are in this massive and vast world, when really you're just wandering around in a sea of brainless copy/paste areas populated by NPCs voiced by the same 5-10 people.

I really have to go out of my way to try those type of games, because you described exactly what I think those games are.

People go on about how awesome a game like Skyrim is (I haven't personally played it), and they'll use size as a crutch. I don't see the appeal of a game being huge and long if it's literally just c/ping over and over again, it really is just an illusion.

Skyrim and Oblivion felt like an alive, breathing world full of activity and life. While Fallout 3 felt stale and static to me.

[dsheinem]

Fallout 3: most overrated game of the generation?

[BoneSnapDeez]

Whenever I hear that a game has a "huge, open world" and that it's "100 hours long" it's generally my cue to avoid it.

[Forlorn Drifter]

Whenever I hear that a game has a "huge, open world" and that it's "100 hours long" it's generally my cue to avoid it.

... and then CDProjekt released The Witcher 3.

[Menegrothx]

Whenever I hear that a game has a "huge, open world" and that it's "100 hours long" it's generally my cue to avoid it.

It's funny how there seems to be a trend in modern big budget AAA games that they're either super linear or sandbox games. I'm exaggerating here a little but it seems like developers either decide "ok, since this game has a story, it must consist of linear hallways (and occasional vehicle sections) where the player can't get lost". Or if they actually want the game to have fun gameplay, they'll turn it into a complete open world sandbox game where you mostly wander around aimlessly blowing shit up.

[brunoafh]

Or if they actually want the game to have fun gameplay, they'll turn it into a complete open world sandbox game where you mostly wander around aimlessly blowing shit up.

GTA syndrome. Although, there are some sandbox games out there that do a lot of cool stuff.